Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.
Published on November 2, 2005 By Dr Guy In Religion

I am putting this under religion because lately there has been a lot of misconceptions about Catholicism.

Now I will be the first to say that I don't understand all other religions, but I am willing to and have learned from the believers of said religions.  And when I am wrong, call me on it, although as I don't assume about other religions much, I don't guess I will get many calls.

But lately, someone has decided Catholicism is a cult!  And they listed reasons, 6 of 7 wrong! and the 7th?  Something practiced by all Christian, Judiasm and Muslim religions!  I guess that makes 3/4 of the world a sect!  Duh!

Today we are going to discuss Annulment.  For those who know the truth, fine.  This is for the other 75% who don't have a clue, including many Catholics!

In Catholicism, we believe that when a man marries a woman, and it is blessed by the church, the love of Christ has entered into the union.  And I suspect every one hopes that as well.  But we must promise that we will allow that love to guide us in raising our children!  Yep, that may be Cultish, but one of the promises is to raise the children Catholic!

Now all is well for 1, 2 5, 10 20 years.  And then Mommy and Daddy get divorced!  Something went wrong!  Indeed it did, although, yep!  I was totally clueless (My family was not).

So I got a divorce.  I found out, via her shrink, for a non event about her brother raping her (he did not, they were just....well...I did not know it when I married her, and not until the divorce)., that she never loved me.

Excuse me?  I spent 20 years of my life married (plus a couple dating)!  But that was an epiphany.  And no, it was not a spite thing.  This was her shrink! (she still needs one BTW).

So we divorced.  I should have known she was and is a complete psycho!  her mother is and was! But I thought we could be peaceful!  hehehehehe!  yea I am stupid!

So you see the set up.  The Judge nailed her and her quota kid lawyer to the wall! (Never hire a quota kid if you want to win).

So she jumps in bed with some witless wonder, and I am sitting on a bunch of assets, and a lot of income.  Only child support now!

Then I met a goddess!  A woman who loves me, and yea she bitch slaps me (Note for Trudy - it is not always bad) when I deserve it (and sometimes when I don't).  We marry years later.  But her family is Catholic.  She is not a good one, but once a Catholic, always a Catholic!

So I do the Annulment thing.  It was long but not hard, as since my first wife never loved me (she used me to get away from an abusive situation), it was never in doubt.  I did not lie (I did not have to).  And she never contested it (although her stories to the kids leave a lot to be desired).

Why was the annulment so easy?  Did it make my children bastards?

The answer to the first is simple.  You cannot have the love of Christ in your Marriage when one party lied at the vows!  And the second part is just as easy.  No they are not.  We were married, legally and in the eyes of the church.  But Man is not infallible, and they need to acknowledge their errors.

The Church did. period.

So all you who get on your horse about annulment, chill!  It has nothing to do with bastardization!  It has nothing to do with making something disappear!

it has everything to do with realizing that sometimes, marriages are flawed from the get go!

So if you want to hate my religion, please do so for the right reasons!  not for some ignorant ones.


Comments (Page 11)
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on Nov 17, 2005

Ok, Ok, OK, I'll sign up soon. I guess you wore me down D.G. When I get a round tuit!!! Soon I promise tho.

With my Compliments:

on Nov 17, 2005
I wont call you Anonymous since you have already revealed somethings about yourself on HC's blog. I am not saying anything really personal, just that you know a very highly respected member here in JU-Blog-land!

*rubbing toe in the dirt* Awwwww, shucks. Stop that! LOL.

Have a great vacation, KFC!

Like Tonya, I'm content to sit back and let you and doc hash this one out...
on Nov 17, 2005
Yeah KFC if you blog here I may just have to add you to my favorites list...right along with your girly gal pal HC!

Now aren't you motivated?
on Nov 17, 2005
Doc, I read in a book on manners once, (uh-hum yeah ok so I needed it because well, some people just DO.) That "one should never discuss politics, religion or child rearing to any significant degree while socializing."

That's because these are the subjects most people will go to the mat about and it can cause serious social complications....

But you see how well I learned....
on Nov 17, 2005
Hey this is starting to sound like a family affair here....and on Dr. Guy's Blog...go figure. Tova guess I'm going to have to visit you sometime soon. Thanks for the encouragment.....you just never know I may be a blogger yet.

Good Grief Doc could you have gotten a bigger round tuit to put on? I guess that's that huh? I've got my round tuit. Well actually I do have a very small one at work somewhere (in my mess of a desk) and that's what I was thinking when I wrote the above.

And um Tova? If we don't discuss these things what's left? (Guess I haven't learned either) Besides we can learn so much from one another when we do....Iron sharpens Iron.

on Nov 18, 2005

Like Tonya, I'm content to sit back and let you and doc hash this one out...

I think we have.  She is the Scholar, and I am just stubborn.

on Nov 18, 2005

Yeah KFC if you blog here I may just have to add you to my favorites list...right along with your girly gal pal HC!

Now aren't you motivated?

That is a high honor indeed!

on Nov 18, 2005

That's because these are the subjects most people will go to the mat about and it can cause serious social complications....

For the most part it is true.  But Joeuser is a place to discuss just such subjects.  And while they can get hot, most of the time the worst insult is "your just ignorant".  We do have some anon trolls that pop in from time to time to try to stir the pot.  But that becomes evident fairly quickly and they are usually then ignored by both sides.

on Nov 18, 2005

And um Tova? If we don't discuss these things what's left? (Guess I haven't learned either) Besides we can learn so much from one another when we do....Iron sharpens Iron.

Many here avoid politics altogether.  As some do Religion.  Many of the best Bloggers blog about their life, and family.  It is a very varied and rich site for just about any taste there is.

on Nov 18, 2005
Yeah KFC if you blog here I may just have to add you to my favorites list...right along with your girly gal pal HC!

Aaaaaaaaaw... ((((((Tova)))))) I'm shocked! I had no idea I was on anyone's favorites list... lol. Thank you! I'm honored!

I think we have. She is the Scholar, and I am just stubborn.

ROFL... ummmm... she can be stubborn too. A scholar AND stubborn. Talk about a double whammie! LOL
on Nov 18, 2005

ROFL... ummmm... she can be stubborn too. A scholar AND stubborn. Talk about a double whammie!

Then we definitely need her!

on Nov 18, 2005
Hey watch it HC...... look who's talking!!!! This is a very good case of the pot calling the kettle black. Besides I'm only stubborn when I KNOW I"M RIGHT!!! The rest I let slide with a shrug.....hey where were we anyway? What's the next topic?
on Nov 18, 2005
Besides I'm only stubborn when I KNOW I"M RIGHT!!!

There are times when you're not? ROFL.... J/K. Love you and you know it... and yeah, I can be stubborn when I wanna be, I guess.
on Nov 19, 2005

Hey watch it HC...... look who's talking!!!! This is a very good case of the pot calling the kettle black. Besides I'm only stubborn when I KNOW I"M RIGHT!!! The rest I let slide with a shrug.....hey where were we anyway? What's the next topic?

That is the beauty of religion.  We can all be right, and still not agree.

on Nov 19, 2005

There are times when you're not? ROFL.... J/K. Love you and you know it... and yeah, I can be stubborn when I wanna be, I guess

You Stubborn?  You are the Diplomat extraordinaire!

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