Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

In an message of peace, to all the right thinking people of the world, the President of Iran called for the eradication of Israel.  This is not some tin pot crackpot, this is the leader of a {sovereign} nation calling for a Pyrrhic annihilation of another country, for no other reason than they do not believe as he does.  He goes further to call for a war against any country that recognizes Israel, which means I guess they are going to target their Muslim brothers in Countries Like Turkey, Indonesia and Egypt.

While reading this zealots statements, I was struck with something that has been brought up in the past about Christianity.  Many apologists for these 'bacteria' (Nods to Ted for the term) compare their Jihad with the mid-evil crusades of the Christians (Catholics back then since the reformation had not occurred).   And some even point to Northern Ireland as another example of religion gone insane.

Both are terrible examples of zealotry in the pursuit of purity (another might also add the Spanish Inquisition).  But the primary difference between those catastrophes and the new Muslim hatred, is that none of them intentionally targeted their brothers in belief.  But as we see in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran, these zealots don't care if you share their beliefs, if you are tainted, they you are a target.

Right now, most Muslim nations are marginalized to their own cesspools, so the only real target of their hatred is their fellow believers.  And guess what?  They are killing them by the scores!

The western world has a cliché.  Almost a truism one would say. "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face."  It basically means don't lash out in anger randomly when you are in the path of your kill zone.  Except for a few crazies, most people on earth realize this to be a very wise cliché. 

Not so the zealots of Islam.  And as sad as it is that so many people die, they are only sabotaging their own racist agenda.  They are killing their future converts.

I don't see a need to bomb Iran back into the stone age for 2 reasons.  The first is that they are progressing back to it all on their own, with no help for anyone else.  The other is that with a few well placed lies, and framing of evidence, we can get them to kill themselves.  Just indicate that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  donated and supported a few Jewish Institutions, and let his 'followers' rip his heart out.

We will supply the pigs blood to ensure he knows where he is going when he dies.


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on Oct 29, 2005

Reply By: rombios(Anonymous User)Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2005
I tip my hat to yee Wanderlust!

Wanderlust, I would not take his word as an affirmation.  He is a real bigot.

on Oct 29, 2005

Reply By: anubis(Anonymous User)

The problem oh badly spelled Egyptian God, is that the people you spoke of were at best, military leaders (what the hell do you think a General is going to say?) or kooks.  Are you going to judge America by the ravings of Pat Robertson?  If so, better get that tin foil hat now!  You are going to need it!

You may not be paranoid.  After all, sometimes they are out to get you.

on Oct 29, 2005

Any criticism of the Jewish State is anti-semitism. This is one of the most
USED tactics to end/sideline honest debate on Middle East issues.

Ok Idiot.  Here is your one chance to not get banned.  Show me where I did?  Comeon, show me.  if you cannot and post any more lies, I will delete all your race baiting bigotted statements.

period.

on Oct 29, 2005

Haven't you guys learned not to allow anonymous comments yet? After a while it becomes pretty obvious the sort of folks who can't figure out how to register. lol, read some books, he says. Um, yeah...

Everyonce in a while, you get a good one.  Anubis was not bad, just picked a couple of kooks and A general in the middle of a war.  The statements were valid, but as I pointed out, it would be lilke quoting pat Roberston when explaining US foreign policy.

on Oct 29, 2005

Doc... looks like the Iranian government has been following this thread... here is a 'softened' interpretation.
And.... BTW... I agree with Baker on Anonymous users... they are just a royal pain!
Link

I read that on (Fox I think) this morning.  Hehehehehe.  Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?

As for anonymous comments, they can be.  I think Anubis was at least rational, if kind of off base.

p.s. Wait!  I already sold you that one!  How about some lake front property in Florida?

on Oct 29, 2005
Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?


you can't sell what is not yours! I bough it for a dollar in 1953.
on Oct 29, 2005
I have been biting my tongue so not to get involved in this, Iran is only voicing what MOST other Muslim countries think, kill Jews anyway we can. Genocide preferable.

Doc? close this thread to anon users, all they are is a bunch of anti Semitic asses and shit stirrers.
on Oct 29, 2005
>Everyonce in a while, you get a good one. Anubis was not bad, just picked a couple of kooks and A
>general in the middle of a war. The statements were valid, but as I pointed out, it would be lilk
>quoting pat Roberston when explaining US foreign policy.

You cant equate the two. Pat Robertson is not in the "decision making" group ... Generals are.

And the points illustrated by Anubis is probably the TIP of the iceberg ... I seem to recall that
Ben Gurion and Golda Maeir made some not so diplomatic statements about arabs in their time.

But of course, we will EXCUSE them ... the Iranians however ...

Give me a break ... the double standard thing rearing its ugly head.
on Oct 29, 2005
>Doc? close this thread to anon users, all they are is a bunch of anti Semitic
>asses and shit stirrers.

Who said anything about killing Jews. I am in FULL SUPPORT of the existence
of a Jewish State

END OF STORY!

My primary point is that neither side can claim the "high moral ground"
argument anymore

As much as I HATE siding or appearing to side with "rombios" ... truth is
he probably makes a point, although his understanding of the underlying
history of that region is WOEFULLY LIMITED.

on Oct 29, 2005
>his understanding of the underlying history of that region is WOEFULLY
>LIMITED.

Hey, I never claimed to be a MidEast expert. I just think that common sense
should prevail in most matters.
on Oct 30, 2005
"My primary point is that neither side can claim the "high moral ground"
argument anymore


Other than the fact that one side wants the utter destruction of the other, and the other side has lived beside them for decades with the power to completely obliterate them and have opted not to. I wonder if it were Israelis in the occupied territories and Palestinians in Jerusalem if it would have gone this way?

Considering that folks like the "grand" mufti are "heros of the Palestinian people", people who supported Hitler's acts with glee...
on Oct 30, 2005
>Other than the fact that one side wants the utter destruction of the other,

Apparently you havent read the quotes Anubis put up ... but hey its always
"selective reasoning" with you isnt it Bakerstreet.

>and the other side has lived beside them for decades with the power to
>completely obliterate them and have opted not to.

The wont because they CANT!

Look buddy the only nation to have EVER used Nuclear Weapons in a convention
al war is the U.S.
The next one to attempt it will usher in Armegeddon.

Besides the fallout will wipe our Israel proper ... get real.

They wont because they CANT!


>I wonder if it were Israelis in the occupied territories and Palestinians
>in Jerusalem if it would have gone this way?

Read the history of how the nation of Israel was founded. The "real" history
, not the nonsense filtered for us "sheeple". Tell me then if you dont
consider that "terrorism".

You know why its so hard to get 10 people to agree on the definition of
Terrorism?

1) its a political tool
2) its used so often it has NO meaning
3) everyone does it
on Oct 30, 2005
You cant equate the two. Pat Robertson is not in the "decision making" group ... Generals are.


In all actuality generals aren't either. They can assist in policy making decisions but "they" do NOT make the decisions. Really what they do is "implement" the decisions made by those above them or give an opinion on something. ALL Generals have someone over them! Be it a president or whoever.
on Oct 30, 2005

you can't sell what is not yours! I bough it for a dollar in 1953.

That is why I changed it to lake front in florida!

on Oct 30, 2005

Doc? close this thread to anon users

Done.

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