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A question for all to Ponder
Published on October 7, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

Moderateman (http://moderateman.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=88642), in a defense of Harriet Miers, just made an interesting statement:

put the lefts precious abortion rights at risk and there is nothing that gets the left foaming at the mouth faster than a perception that someone might overturn Roe V Wade.

Taken at face value, the statement seems to be one of those "well Duh" ones.  And if that were indeed the case, no more would need to be said.

But I have a question for everyone here.  How would overturning Roe versus Wade affect abortion rights?  So many yell that over turning it would make abortions illegal.  Would it?

There is no reputable legal scholar around today that thinks that Roe is a good ruling.  It basically sucks and shows that you don't have to be smart to be on the Supreme Court.  Bakerstreet showed that the so called 'right to privacy' is no such right at all, and that the only thing that Roe did was make abortion a right.  Note, I did not say found the right to abortion.  For Roe found nothing.  Roe created a right.  By 7 unelected people.  In one ruling, they disenfranchised 200+ million people in the United States.

So why not over rule it?  Would not that be better so we could have a better ruling for the future?

And if it is over ruled, what will happen to abortion?

Anyone want to take a stab at answering that?


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on Oct 07, 2005

I wonder how far the pro-abortion movement would have gotten had it only been women, and only those who were pro-abortion, that fought for it. No, I think pro-abortionists have to hand it to Chappaquiddick Ted and all the other male "women's rights" proponents with their pants perpetually around their ankles and a deadly fear of paternity suits.

Insightful angle!  If it was not for all the randy men, abortion would still be a coat hangar away.  Only men get pregnant?  Do you think the randy men would push for abortion?  Or just use precautions?

Now that is worthy of an article unto itself.

on Oct 07, 2005
Baker--as I said elsewhere, I do not feel able to hold a civilized conversation at the moment, so I am bowing out. My apologies.
on Oct 07, 2005

Baker--as I said elsewhere, I do not feel able to hold a civilized conversation at the moment, so I am bowing out. My apologies.

Thank you for your contributions.  I hope you feel better soon.

on Oct 07, 2005
Bah, no worries, don't take it personally.
on Oct 07, 2005
Too many people look to the government as the arbitor of our rights. It's like they are saying, "if the government doesn't spell it out as a right, it isn't a right". Which is (of course) a complete 180 of the facts.
on Oct 07, 2005
" Too many people look to the government as the arbitor of our rights. It's like they are saying, "if the government doesn't spell it out as a right, it isn't a right". Which is (of course) a complete 180 of the facts."


And others think of the government as some separate power, and not the voting public of the US. If you are going to prevent people from self-rule, you SHOULD have to spell out why. If you allow them to put speed limits on cars, you can't say there is an inherent reason to prevent them from doing so on boats, unless you can back it up.

We are allowed to make laws about what we can do with our own bodies, and we are allowed to make laws governing the doctor patient relationship. If women have special rights, the voting public should have some evidence that they are dictated by something more than Liberal whim.
on Oct 07, 2005
We are allowed to make laws about what we can do with our own bodies, and we are allowed to make laws governing the doctor patient relationship. If women have special rights, the voting public should have some evidence that they are dictated by something more than Liberal whim.


Exactly, either the government can make laws regulating medical procedures (meaning medicine should be regulated) or medical procedures are an inherent right which the law must protect. So far it seems too many want this one particular procedure to be an inherent right, but all others need to be regulated and restricted.

We the People need to make up our minds, do we want the government to decide what are our rights and what aren't, or do we retain the power over our rights with the government there to protect and defend them?
on Oct 07, 2005
asked if he was likely to reconsider his position on roe vs wade, president bush responded:

"this is another issue that would have been better decided at the local level by the mayor of new orleans and the governor of louisiana."
on Oct 07, 2005
Strange Kingbee, that quote can't be found on a search engine, any suggestions on how I can find it?
on Oct 07, 2005
By 7 unelected people


Why should 7 people, making a decision on


a gang of 7 dictating laws


heyyyyyyyyyy...how come bush is gettin to pack the court with 2 extra justices?
on Oct 07, 2005
any suggestions on how I can find it?


it's a joke, son. a joke.

row? wade?
on Oct 07, 2005
Ah, got it, good pun Kingbee! ;~D

heyyyyyyyyyy...how come bush is gettin to pack the court with 2 extra justices?


Because, unlike the Court inventing "rights" that never existed, the U.S. Constitution DOES give the President the authority to nominate Justices.
on Oct 07, 2005
the U.S. Constitution DOES give the President the authority to nominate Justices.


yeah but aint it activist executivism or something to add 2 more judges to the 7 "dictators" about whom dr guy and chaos manager are so worked up over cuz they were sitting on the bench when roe v wade was decided?

who the hell authorized more than 7 judges dammit?
on Oct 07, 2005
who the hell authorized more than 7 judges dammit?


Eh, it's a Friday. Who said I was supposed to be able count past 7 on a Friday?

'Sides, I'm a programmer. I can't count past 1, anyways.
on Oct 07, 2005
I'm a programmer. I can't count past 1, anyways


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