PETA: Sinking to New lows

They have hit bottom and started to dig

Published on August 1, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

In another show of callous disregard to the human race or anything approaching humanity, PETA has a new Ad Campaign against people. Except this time they really have gone too far! Instead of enobling their cause, which I am sure was their aim, they just demonstrate how callous and inhumane they are.

In the latest Ad campaign, they are equating selling breeding cattle and horses to the horror of the slave trade 200 years ago! They are not enobling their cause, they are cheapening the plight of the blacks of that age! And that is just plain sickening!

If there was any shred of humanity or compassion in those clowns before, it is apparent that they have none now. It is too bad that they take what is arguably one of the most tragic times in American history and belittling it by comparing it to the selling of Cattle!

They are beneath contempt! They do not deserve even the effort for spitting on them, for that would be to acknowledge them as contemptable, and that is too good for those creeps.

Comments (Page 6)

Moderateman

on Aug 10, 2005

dear karma, your comment about where would humans be without reason, and the ability to create weapons, is about as valid as me saying where would crocs be with no teeth, or great white sharks be if they could not swim.

The FACT is we are the apex predator and it's because we ate meat in early developement. {cavemen} because of meat eating our brains grew, because of brains getting bigger we could reason, because of reason we could create.

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

Reason is the natural tool of human beings, just as the trunk is a natural tool of elephants and sonar is a natural tool of bats and dolphins.

And that's why we're at the top of the food chain: because the ability to reason, and to choose our course of action rather than obeying blind instinct, trumps all other survival characteristics we know of.

Of course, it's the ability to choose the wrong thing instead of the right thing that gets us into so much trouble and may spell our eventual doom. I'm telling you, instinct never looked so good--where can I get some?

I think we are getting very philosophical, but good points!

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

They're trying to convert people!!! They're going about it the wrong way, certainly, but if they simply insist that we leave them alone they're not doing anything to achieve their goal.

I would expect them to come to that realization when they get a concussion from beating their head against a wall!

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a violent, underground group of fanatics who plant firebombs in restaurants, destroy butcher shops, and torch research labs.

But PETA does contribute to ALF and ELF.

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

So you don't think that comparing food animals to holocaust victims and slaves makes a mockery of the holocaust, slavery, and every human being that suffered and died as a result?

I do.

I do as well.

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

What a load. They have every intention of mocking and insulting, as evidenced by the way they operate. YOU can't say "Meat is Murder" without villifying meat eaters. As far as I am concerned, if I ever survive a plane crash in the mountains, the PETA members get eaten first.

Glad I am not PETA then!

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

because of meat eating our brains grew,

I wont go that far, but God or evolution made us meat eaters for a reason. And to deny it is to deny what human beings are. We can be humane about it, as I think we should. But to deny it is just plain stupid.

philomedy

on Aug 10, 2005

So you don't think that comparing food animals to holocaust victims and slaves makes a mockery of the holocaust, slavery, and every human being that suffered and died as a result?

Good point.

philomedy

on Aug 10, 2005

They have every intention of mocking and insulting, as evidenced by the way they operate. YOU can't say "Meat is Murder" without villifying meat eaters.

Kind of how you can't say "abortion is murder" without villifying every doctor, nurse, patient, town, contractor, carpenter, painter, electrician, board member, politician, mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, cousin, nephew and friend who supported a loved one or made possible for a person to carry out a very difficult decision. Right?

You're taking PETA's protests way too personally. As a meat eater, you are not a murderer. As a pro-choice person and a meat eater, I am not a murderer. PETA's indictment is directed at a lifestyle (meat eating), which many people follow and believe in. A pro-lifer's indictment is directed at a belief (pro-choice) which many people follow and believe in. Two indictments, both made by the perhaps the worst means possible, but both aimed at lifestyles and beliefs, not people. Your ideas are not who you are. Neither one of us is meat eating. It is something we do, something we enjoy, but in the end, it is merely one of a million things that make us who we are. Quite frankly, I don't feel insulted when one of my beliefs is debated, no matter how callously or rudely my opponent may choose to act. That might just be me, but that's why I don't feel that the "Meat is murder" campaign is particularly insulting.

And I realize that you made the same point as LW about it being disrespectful to compare the killing of animals to slavery and the holocaust, although I'd appreciate it if you could keep from calling us asinine in the future.

bakerstreet

on Aug 10, 2005

I'll call whatever asinine I find to be asinine, and I'll thank you to stop this constant effort to police what I say. If you have a problem with my behavior, feel free to use your troll button, and tell an admin, a.k.a. someone with authority who I give a damn what they think. Anyway, since your pal Myrrander is among the disrespectful and insulting human beings I have ever met, and you have nothing but hell yeahs for him, I doubt I am going to take your stance on decency very seriously.

No, if you both contract and benefit from murder you are a party to murder, right? If you pay someone to kill something so you can eat it, I can't imagine how you could be blameless in the murder. PETA is more than welcome to believe that and preach it from the rooftops. For that reason I have the right to state openly I think they are idiots for believing it.

I don't know why you keep bringing up abortion, I guess you're just wanting to get something else started. I do note that your new buddy Doc doesn't seem to have a problem with that little bit of "off topic" junk coming up over and over. I'm not going to bite, though, since you obviously know how I feel about it or you wouldn't be baiting me.

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

Sorry, I will not go there. To me, Abortion is MUrder. I do not foist it upon JU, but to me there is no other way of looking at it. So I would answer yes. To those how perform it. Why? Because I believe life begins at conception.

Will I execute the death penalty for it? No, because I know it is not the law of the land. just as I am not calling for Michael Schiavo's execution.

But I am also not Klingon, so the sins of the father are not visited upon the family.

We do not hang the family of a murderer for his or her sins. Nor do we do it with abortion. They have to answer to their own God. So leave off the relatives in the next analogy.

Dr Guy

on Aug 10, 2005

I don't know why you keep bringing up abortion, I guess you're just wanting to get something else started. I do note that your new buddy Doc doesn't seem to have a problem with that little bit of "off topic" junk coming up over and over. I'm not going to bite, though, since you obviously know how I feel about it or you wouldn't be baiting me.

Actually, that is another blog. And I am not a new Buddy. I respect him as much as I respect you. I think that this is wholly evil in the sense it cheapens the true travesty against humanity. And I dont think thaT comparing it to Abortion is a valid analogy. As I said.

Unlike PETA, while I am wholly against abortion, I am not going down their bastard logic to equate it with the Holocaust or the Slave trade. I will say that it cheapens life, and until people can understand that, we will always have post partum abortions as NARAL has already advocated.

drmiler

on Aug 10, 2005

Wrong! Wrong! WRONG!! One is done to live (meat eater) the other is not.

msladydeath

on Aug 11, 2005

but PETA compares it to the Underground Railroad and the French Resistance. More than 20 years after its inception, PETA continues to hire convicted ALF militants and funds their legal defense. In at least one case, court records show that Ingrid Newkirk herself was involved in an ALF arson.

But PETA does contribute to ALF and ELF.

I know, and I said so much, in the same paragraph you quoted.

As far as reasoning with them, remember, individuals and groups are different. Reasoning with Peta itself sure, reasoning with extremist members, ummmm not so much. But I'm going from personal experiance in reading posts, as appossed to articals and such.

philomedy

on Aug 11, 2005

Sorry, I can't help it if I disagree with most of the sheer idiocy that comes out of your head. Like I told you before, I could care less about points so I could care less about troll buttons, and I like intelligent debate (and I use the term loosely when it comes to you) so I'm not gonna go run to the administrators every time you say something dumb. And since Myrrander hasn't even been present on this thread for a couple of days, I'm gonna assume you bringing him up has something to do with you thinking that he and I and Champas are all out to get you. Boo! Did you jump?

No, if you both contract and benefit from murder you are a party to murder, right? If you pay someone to kill something so you can eat it, I can't imagine how you could be blameless in the murder. PETA is more than welcome to believe that and preach it from the rooftops. For that reason I have the right to state openly I think they are idiots for believing it.

It seems to me that the problem isn't that PETA believes that meat is murder, but that you do, and feel guilty for it. You're a meat eater. You pay someone to kill something so you can eat it. You can't imagine how you could be blameless in the act. Your right to state what you think was never questioned here: But why call PETA idiots for stating "meat is murder", when your previous statement all but says that they're right?

Yeah, I've brought up abortion, um...once on this thread that started...four days ago. Yeah, I can't let that go can I? And I mentioned it as part of an analogy, the second paragraph (and main explanation) of which you seem to have decided not to read. I will hold steadfast to my belief that my opinions, be they about abortion, meat eating, religion, evolution, string theory, relativity, or time travel are not who I am. So I'm sorry, but "meat is murder" does not offend me. I think it's wrong, I disagree with it, but it does not offend me.

And let me just say that drguy is not "a new buddy." We have enjoyed an amicable, if often debate filled, friendship since I started here. And let me just say, its nice to debate someone who isn't constantly looking over every shoulder he has, taking a magnifying glass to the computer screen in an effor to find the next attempt at "baiting" him.

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