Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.
No Right Answer
Published on March 17, 2011 By Dr Guy In Personal Computing

I have several browsers on my desktop.  I have XP at home (bought 3 years ago - BEFORE 7, and did not want Vista) so IE9 is not an option (work is Vista - I was right in my home purchase).  So I am using IE8 both at home and work.  When I use IE.  I have Firefox which is my browser of choice, Opera, Safari, and Chrome.

I know many will disagree with me, and that is fine, but my experiences show that no one is winning, just some are losing slower.

Opera is fine if all you want to do is read the news.  It is relatively fast, and clean.  for a quick hit, I like it, but seldom use it.

Safari is for Mac users.  Nothing wrong with the windows version - just not a lot right (like add ons and such).  It has not given me a reason to switch to it as a primary browser - or even secondary.  As such, I do not hate it, just do not use it.

Chrome is not fast.  I wonder if the FCC will nab them for false advertising.  Doubtful since it is free.  but the lack of speed has turned me off to it.  Like Opera, I use it on occasion, but it is not on the top of my browser list.

IE is fast launching.  It is also the browser of last resort (when the Stardock forums mess up, or a web page will not display correctly in other browsers, IE will work).  But it is not fast surfing.  And has one idiosyncrasy (actually 2) that I hate.

#1: when closing multiple tabs and windows, and saving them, relaunching IE brings them all up in one window.  Why? (Did 9 fix that?)

#2: More often than not, when closing said tabs, IE will "crash" and then open all the windows again - without asking.

#3 (well, I mis-counted) Windows does not recover from a non-shutdown crash with all tabs.

But on the good side, of my top 2 browsers, it is by far the most frugal with memory (I never thought I would say that!).  I had 2 windows and 12 tabs open the other day, and it was using only 100mb of memory (ONLY!!!!!  God we have come far).

Firefox is my browser of first choice.  I like the thousands of Add Ons I can choose to add (or not), the ease at which I can enable or disable them, and the fast browsing.  But it is not perfect.

#1: It is slow to launch - especially if there is an update.  But even without an update, it will take about 5 minutes where IE takes about 1.

#2: it is a memory HOG!  Same day, I also had Firefox up with 6 tabs open, one window.  It was pegging 500mb!  I frequently have to crash the browser as once it gets over 500mb (one system has 2gb the other has 4gb of memory so it does not appear to matter how much total memory there is), it dogs it.  But the crashing leads to the reason it is my main browser - namely:

#1: When you shut it down, and then relaunch, it does not open the Home pages PLUS the saved tabs (IE does thatt - and I have 3 home pages so it really clutters things up).

#2: When you crash it (or it does it to itself - it does not crash often), it will open the previous tabs in their respective windows - not all in one.  Often when IE crashes, your tabs are gone.

#3 - and the biggest reason I prefer it - it is not IE!  In that I mean you avoid the bugs that the script kiddies and malware authors love to exploit in IE (should Firefox become #1, I am sure they will target it and I will probably change my main browser).

But that brings up another thing that is not good about Firefox (version 3.x.x).  It does not allow you to "save" tabs when you have multiple windows open until you close the last one.  Unless you crash it.

Still, with all its faults (well not so many, just aggravating), Firefox is my browser of choice. 

Now before someone gets to calling me stupid for missing something obvious on a setting, I will admit that while I have poked around in the options, I am not an expert at them.  So if you know a setting that can ease my gripes about either IE or Firefox, I will be happy to hear them!  Or if you want to tout the wonders of another browser, tell me why it is your favorite.  I am not a browser snob.  I just want a tool that I do not have to crash periodically (Firefox) - or that crashes on me (IE).


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on Mar 18, 2011

I group my tabs by theme, so at times I will have 2 or 3 windows open each with multiple tabs. If I go to close one of the windows it does not give me the option of saving the tabs (IE does). It is only when the last window is closed do I get the option.

Interesting, I don't know if you use Firefox 3 or 4 but in 3 I can have Firefox ask me if I want to save the current tabs before closing. This was removed from Firefox 4, to be honest I didn't quite understand the reason. Something about some people didn't like it or something. Makes no sense to me, go figure. All I know is I want it back and if someone can create an add-on to do just that I would be grateful.

on Mar 18, 2011

I've been using Opera since I got a dedicated internet connection. It's had it's ups and downs, sharp computability drop after version 10.10(or .20), got a lot better afterwards. The previous build(not the current beta) is stable and reliable. The current beta for 11.11 has a bunch of computability issues with websites.

What I like most about Opera is the keyboard commands, it makes everything a lot faster. I use it a lot for work, and trust me when I say, that if you ever work with an in browser database, Opera trumps everything when it comes to quick and accurate data entry. Something that would take 3 hours on Firefox took only one hour on Opera. Gotta love that keyboard support. 

And it's got the best proxy service around, Opera Speed Dial, acts as a proxy and speeds up stuff. Great for internet connections where anything linking to facebook causes loading to stall, because for some reason, the loading priority for most websites is pointless socialization stuff first, content last. The widgets are also fun, but I generally forget to load them when I need them. They should make them more visible, but then again, the Opera interface is so clean, I wouldn't mind if they kept it this way. It's not jam-packed with all sorts of bars and buttons, you'll never get nagged to "install our search bar" for Opera. Also, viruses. A while ago someone posted a script on a forum I used to frequent. Anyone who had Firefox or IE would have their computer shut down because of the script posted there, if it wasn't detected by an antivirus. Opera looked at it, said "Do you think I'm stupid", and ignored it.

Also, speed dial is the way of the future, bookmarks are dead 

 Much like tabbed browsing, I'm fairly certain you'll be seeing it in other browsers in the coming years.

on Mar 18, 2011

Firefox has speed dial as an add-on. The only one I use. Every once in a while I try IE9 but ... no go. It still will not open a web page. Why would it work almost flawlessly for some but real shitty for others. Go figure.

on Mar 18, 2011

That would be a best seller! IE is not great about getting bookmarks, so I usually bookmark everything in IE, and then import into FF and Safari (the only 2 where I "browse" - the others are just used for one up sites).

Try Xmarks....works great. LINK

on Mar 18, 2011

Went into windows features and disabled IE9. Even after I tried putting WC in with trusted sites.

on Mar 18, 2011

Try Xmarks....works great. LINK

just loaded it on my test machine and will check it out.  Thanks for the recommendation!

on Mar 18, 2011

Decided to give Pale Moon a try. So far so good. Its just like FF.

on Mar 18, 2011

just loaded it on my test machine and will check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!

Greatest thing since sliced bread. been using it for years and it rocks.

on Mar 18, 2011

FIREFOX!!!!

 

 

 

YOU AGREE WITH ME, OR BE WRONG!


on Mar 18, 2011

Okay

on Mar 18, 2011

Well said, Uvah.

on Mar 18, 2011

Decided to give Pale Moon a try

Me too. Think I'd heard of it before but didn't give it a go until now. So far, so good....

on Mar 18, 2011

Been using IE9 since early Beta....was a dog....today loaded the RTM ver [final]...now in 64bit .....seems fine...but I lost my zoomer dock [the tabbed one was OK though].

Gotta set it up again....bugger....

on Mar 18, 2011

Oh buggers. Almost forgot. Firefox 4 is due out next week. Now let's see what's what. Probably gonna be less than what it is considering some things have been removed.

on Mar 18, 2011

I think that Opera is the best on windows operating system.

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