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No Right Answer
Published on March 17, 2011 By Dr Guy In Personal Computing

I have several browsers on my desktop.  I have XP at home (bought 3 years ago - BEFORE 7, and did not want Vista) so IE9 is not an option (work is Vista - I was right in my home purchase).  So I am using IE8 both at home and work.  When I use IE.  I have Firefox which is my browser of choice, Opera, Safari, and Chrome.

I know many will disagree with me, and that is fine, but my experiences show that no one is winning, just some are losing slower.

Opera is fine if all you want to do is read the news.  It is relatively fast, and clean.  for a quick hit, I like it, but seldom use it.

Safari is for Mac users.  Nothing wrong with the windows version - just not a lot right (like add ons and such).  It has not given me a reason to switch to it as a primary browser - or even secondary.  As such, I do not hate it, just do not use it.

Chrome is not fast.  I wonder if the FCC will nab them for false advertising.  Doubtful since it is free.  but the lack of speed has turned me off to it.  Like Opera, I use it on occasion, but it is not on the top of my browser list.

IE is fast launching.  It is also the browser of last resort (when the Stardock forums mess up, or a web page will not display correctly in other browsers, IE will work).  But it is not fast surfing.  And has one idiosyncrasy (actually 2) that I hate.

#1: when closing multiple tabs and windows, and saving them, relaunching IE brings them all up in one window.  Why? (Did 9 fix that?)

#2: More often than not, when closing said tabs, IE will "crash" and then open all the windows again - without asking.

#3 (well, I mis-counted) Windows does not recover from a non-shutdown crash with all tabs.

But on the good side, of my top 2 browsers, it is by far the most frugal with memory (I never thought I would say that!).  I had 2 windows and 12 tabs open the other day, and it was using only 100mb of memory (ONLY!!!!!  God we have come far).

Firefox is my browser of first choice.  I like the thousands of Add Ons I can choose to add (or not), the ease at which I can enable or disable them, and the fast browsing.  But it is not perfect.

#1: It is slow to launch - especially if there is an update.  But even without an update, it will take about 5 minutes where IE takes about 1.

#2: it is a memory HOG!  Same day, I also had Firefox up with 6 tabs open, one window.  It was pegging 500mb!  I frequently have to crash the browser as once it gets over 500mb (one system has 2gb the other has 4gb of memory so it does not appear to matter how much total memory there is), it dogs it.  But the crashing leads to the reason it is my main browser - namely:

#1: When you shut it down, and then relaunch, it does not open the Home pages PLUS the saved tabs (IE does thatt - and I have 3 home pages so it really clutters things up).

#2: When you crash it (or it does it to itself - it does not crash often), it will open the previous tabs in their respective windows - not all in one.  Often when IE crashes, your tabs are gone.

#3 - and the biggest reason I prefer it - it is not IE!  In that I mean you avoid the bugs that the script kiddies and malware authors love to exploit in IE (should Firefox become #1, I am sure they will target it and I will probably change my main browser).

But that brings up another thing that is not good about Firefox (version 3.x.x).  It does not allow you to "save" tabs when you have multiple windows open until you close the last one.  Unless you crash it.

Still, with all its faults (well not so many, just aggravating), Firefox is my browser of choice. 

Now before someone gets to calling me stupid for missing something obvious on a setting, I will admit that while I have poked around in the options, I am not an expert at them.  So if you know a setting that can ease my gripes about either IE or Firefox, I will be happy to hear them!  Or if you want to tout the wonders of another browser, tell me why it is your favorite.  I am not a browser snob.  I just want a tool that I do not have to crash periodically (Firefox) - or that crashes on me (IE).


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on Mar 30, 2011

Did the install and palemoon went nuts. The scroll function didn't work. When I used the arrow keys it started vibrating madly. Couldn't open any tabs and the homepage, WC, was there but I couldn't navigate any where. Buggy is the word I'm looking for. I uninstalled it. Oh and it soesn't support Imageshack. Not compatible. Its no good to me then.

on Mar 30, 2011

But on the other hand when you unistall it and 'its still there'. WTF! I got the home page open it right now and I just got finished uninstalling it. what's wrong with this picture?!?

 

on Mar 30, 2011

what's wrong with this picture?!?

Uvah painted it?

Sounds like a double or borked install. Reboot and see if there's anything to uninstall. If not, I'd try reinstalling. Love Pale Moon.

on Mar 30, 2011

They did have some hardware requirements out there for processors, mostly just anything not horribly ancient, but I have no idea what's in your machine so you might check that if you didn't.

on Mar 30, 2011

I did that. I had to go into program files and delete the folder. Did a re-install and got the same results. I'm going back to palemoon 3.6.15. At least that one worked. What's up with palemoon 4 I have no clue. I downloaded it from the palemoon website. Threatfire flagged it too. It tried to modify how I connect to the net. I had to kill the process again.

BTW ...AMD processor at 2.6 gigs. 3 gigs of ram. 320 gig HD. Win 7 64 bit. Previous version worked like a charm. And PM4 looks a little like IE. Same color scheme. And my laptop is not even a year old yet. Nine months I have it.

on Mar 30, 2011

Wonder why there is no Palemoon 3.6.16 as that was what Firefox was before moving to 4.

on Mar 30, 2011

^  I knew I had stumbled upon the answer to that while poking around on the Palemoon site, look under "26 Mar 2011" a few paragraphs down the page:

http://www.palemoon.org/news.shtml

 

on Mar 30, 2011

I re-installed palemoon 3,6,15 and this is too weird. It looks exactly like version four which is to say it looks like I described IE9 whereas the other palemoon 3.6.15 looked exactly like that version of Firefox. Now imageshack is a right click where before there was a tool bar. I don't get it. Too many weird things going on with these browsers. Next thing ya know a new version of Chrome will come out which will be a clone of Opera which will be a clone of IE9 which will be a clone of itself and I wish they'd get their damn act together already. Sheesh!

on Mar 31, 2011

Uvah, sometimes they ARE out to get you!

on Mar 31, 2011

I mostly use IE8, although I have Firefox and Chrome too.

 

on Mar 31, 2011

I tried Palemoon 4 and it was horrid on my machine. It was like everything had a major case of the hiccups and pages were jerky and jumping all over. Took me about ten minutes to remove it! Because of a major snafu on my part, I had to reinstall Windows a week or so ago but prior to that I had installed IE9 and it was suprisingly fast. Wasn't too fond of the tab placement so am holding off on reinstalling it. Firefox, for whatever reason has always been slower than IE on any sytem I have used it on!

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