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Published on January 26, 2006 By Dr Guy In Current Events

In what can only be a hilarious rebuke to the city of Chicago, Wal Mart is opening a store one block outside of the city limits after being denied the right to open one in the city.  Now all of us have been regaled with stories of how horrid and horrible Wal-Mart is, and how oppressive to their employees they are.  So in a city (just outside) with a reputation of Unionization like Chicago, one would think they would be stupid to build and operate a store.  The Pickets alone would be bad publicity.

But something strange happened on the way to the picket line.  25,000 (yes, 3 zeros) applied for the 325 jobs!  This far surpasses their old record when they built in Oakland of 11,000, or what a Wal-Mart spokesman called a successful opening of 3,000 applicants.  25,000!  And all but 500 listed Chicago as their home!

The Alderman (why does Chicago call their Council members aldermen?) that tried to get Wal-Mart in Chicago itself laments the fact that most of the shoppers are going to be coming from Chicago, but Chicago is not going to get any of the benefits.  Indeed, the little township that won the prize is expected to reap a bonus of $1 million in sales taxes a year from the store alone.  And they currently only get $3 million a year from all other sources!  A very hefty winfall!

Why Chicago rejected Wal Mart was not made clear in the article, but in reading some of the comments, it appears to be political infighting among the aldermen.  Only a couple are actually quoted.  But it does seem to be penny wise and pound foolish for all the alderman to have just chucked that much additional revenue out the door due to some petty internal squabbling.

And the 25,000 people eagerly looking for jobs?  I doubt they care what side of the street the store is located on.  They voted for Wal-Mart with their actions, and seem to be saying "Pays good, Benefits better".  And not "Bad Big Wally World".

So who gets hurt when you deny the market place?  The lesson here, is your Constituents.


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on Jan 26, 2006
Good article, hehe,
see Wal-Mart grow
see city councilmen blush
see people not learn from past
on Jan 26, 2006

see Wal-Mart grow
see city councilmen blush

Like bailing Lake Michigan with a seive!

on Jan 26, 2006
"Pays good, Benefits better".

Slightly better then minimum wage earnings plus a benefits package so modest, the expense is hardly worth it seems to contrast heavily with your statement, Doc.

Of course, I guess I could see the perspective of Wal-Mart pay being 'good' and the benefits 'better' opposed to any job that only offers minimum wage and no benefits.

You should grab the Wal-Mart documentary 'Wal-Mart: The High Price of Low Costs", I think you will find it to be eye-opening.

I would skip through the first half-hour sob-story, but I would really concentrate on the chapter dealing with benefits and the one dealing with chinese worker exploitation.

Enjoy.
on Jan 26, 2006

Slightly better then minimum wage earnings plus a benefits package so modest, the expense is hardly worth it seems to contrast heavily with your statement, Doc.

Actually, 8 bucks an hour is not bad.  and Significantly higher than minimum Wage.  As for the Benefits, I have heard they are not up to industry standards.  But what INdustry?  Having worked in Retail for 12 years, I can tell you that on average, their pay and Benefits do suck.  So Wal-Mart is no different, just bigger.

I dont have to watch a fluff piece to know that Wal-Mart is doing just fine.  WHen you get 25,000 applications (and the unemployment rate in Chicago is not THAT high), that indicates that people are shopping and liking what they see.

BTW:  I doubt China is getting exploited.  They dont need to make $5.25 per hour to have a very good standard of living.

on Jan 26, 2006
25,000 (yes, 2 zeros) applied for the 325 jobs!

Yes another sign of how robust our current economy is.
on Jan 26, 2006
25,000 (yes, 2 zeros) applied for the 325 jobs!

Yes another sign of how robust our current economy is.


I seem to notice a lack of the word "unemployed" in there, specially after the 25,000. I must be mistaken.
on Jan 26, 2006
I seem to notice a lack of the word "unemployed" in there, specially after the 25,000. I must be mistaken.


Yes, I'm sure that majority of the 25,000 were people who were on their lunch breaks from their jobs with Fortune 500 companies.

I'm not a big Walmart basher, but it's fact that they don't pay much and the benefits are paltry. So why would employed people be standing in line to get a job there?
on Jan 26, 2006

Slightly better then minimum wage earnings plus a benefits package so modest, the expense is hardly worth it seems to contrast heavily with your statement, Doc.

"slightly better than minimum"? You've GOT to be joking, def. Even in our nearest community, where wages are LOW, WalMart pays over $7.00 an hour...which is about 50% MORE than minimum, if you're keeping score at home.

Only in the world of the left could 50% over minimum be considered "slightly better".

on Jan 26, 2006

I'm not a big Walmart basher, but it's fact that they don't pay much and the benefits are paltry.

It's a FACT? SURE...if you believe the hype from people who are PAID to attack WalMart (yes, ladies and gents...the WalMart watch folks get a paycheck for their smear!) Let's see...salary that exceeds the industry average (ask me about the guy who worked with me at WalMart that jumped ship from A&F for a $2 an hour increase), health care benefits for PART TIME employees after a year, generous stock match, profit sharing...yup, they're definitely out to screw the working class!

on Jan 26, 2006

Yes another sign of how robust our current economy is.

Thanks for catching the typo!  It has been corrected.

on Jan 26, 2006

I seem to notice a lack of the word "unemployed" in there, specially after the 25,000. I must be mistaken.

The article did not comment on (nor do I think Wal-Mart knows) if any are unemployed.

on Jan 26, 2006

but it's fact that they don't pay much and the benefits are paltry

There has been a lot of debate on their benefits, but the truth is, go to work for a Mom and Pop shop, and your Benefits are nil.  So they are better than nothing.  And their pay is pretty good for retail.  After all, you are basically talking about low skilled jobs. 

Apparently the combination of the 2 is enough to make 25,000 people think it is a good job.

on Jan 26, 2006

"slightly better than minimum"? You've GOT to be joking, def. Even in our nearest community, where wages are LOW, WalMart pays over $7.00 an hour...which is about 50% MORE than minimum, if you're keeping score at home.
Only in the world of the left could 50% over minimum be considered "slightly better".

I think I read in another article that they are paying about $8/hr up there, but it (the article) did not reference this store, so that may just be an average (starting) for the Mid-West.

on Jan 26, 2006

health care benefits for PART TIME employees after a year, generous stock match, profit sharing...yup, they're definitely out to screw the working class!

What it really comes down to is what you wrote about recently.  It is not called slavery for a reason.  And these 25,000 are not wanting to become indentured.  So Wal-Mart is doing something right.

on Jan 26, 2006
There has been a lot of debate on their benefits, but the truth is, go to work for a Mom and Pop shop, and your Benefits are nil. So they are better than nothing. And their pay is pretty good for retail. After all, you are basically talking about low skilled jobs.


I work "in retail", so I know what's good and not good "in retail".
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