Atheists: Methinks he doth protest too much

Published on December 6, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

Dave Silverman, a coming out of the closet Atheist (if I was gay, I would bitch slap the jerk) has decided that atheists cant be atheists because of persecution from the "religious right". Well, before I get into the meat of this article let me offer him a boo hoo! hey jerk! I am a Catholic! You think they like me any better?

http://www.atheists.org/comingout/othercloset.html

But perhaps the reason that you feel so ostracized is because you are doing the persecution? ya think? maybe just a little?

Oh! So what do we have now. Well anyone who reads the news knows about Michael Newdow and his quest to banish mention of God (why? If you don't believe in Him, why be afraid of his name? You don't sound like an Atheist, more like a BC idol worshiper or a pagan).

Now we have a bunch of needle nose atheist objecting to honoring fallen Utah State Troopers! And how are they honored? SHOCK! GASP! "I am coming to you Elizabeth!"

They are erecting crosses, most on private property, along the highways of Utah! No message of "Jesus is going to get you!" or "Burn in hell Infidel" (I kind of like that one, it rhymes). Just simple, plain crosses.

I have seen many along the highways here in Va! And SHOCK! GASP! On the public right of way along the highways. Honoring those that have died at or near those spots.

yet the Atheists are up in arms over this! They are melting! Melting!

So Mr. Silverman, if you want to "Come out of the closet", by all means do so! But don't blame those YOU are persecuting for putting you there. You are just another sniveling coward that likes to dish it out, but cant take it.

Jerk.

Comments (Page 5)

Dr Guy

on Dec 10, 2005

ah, the urban legends abound in this thread. ;~D

Ok, have I been taken in by the Mormons own cassinos one? If so, I plead gullibiliity!

Dr Guy

on Dec 10, 2005

I'm tired of this argument. Christianity isn't a pill you can shove down somebody's throat, healing them in a forceful conversion. *sighs heavily*

Did you read the article? *sighs heavily*. Apparently not. For it is the Atheist that are intolerant of dissent! And the article is pointing out that hypocrisy. Christians are not doing a diddly damn thing!

Or are you talking about the comments? Best to be more precise.

Dan Kaschel

on Dec 11, 2005

I read the article, as I always do, and I understood it perfectly. Regardless of who is more intolerant than whom, it is YOU who wrote this article, and YOU who is stirring up the same cauldron of dissent. That was my point.

And who said tolerance was a good thing, anyway? We shouldn't be tolerant. Take racism. My culture says "be colorblind." I say, see the colors, and recognise them for their beauty and their potential. Tolerance says, "stop discriminating, we're all essentially the same." Diversity says "we're all different... and it's better that way."

This really isn't an issue of tolerance, you see. Because religion isn't philosophy; with religion, you're either right or wrong, and the loser goes to hell. Religion is not an appropriate field for a discussion of tolerance. But that doesn't matter, does it? Because even if I'm right and you're wrong, the power of the human mind will gloss over relevance and allow you to pounce easily on whatever flaws I have in my logic.

And dang it, I'd love to condemn you, but how can I, when I'm the same way?

Dan

Dr Guy

on Dec 11, 2005

This really isn't an issue of tolerance, you see

But it is. It is about allowing you to beleive, or not, in anything you want. And allowing me to do the same. Some cannot tolerate that. And so, yes I slam them in this article, and in many of the comments. Those that are tolerant, are not the brunt of this article. However, if we are to constantly qualify every thing we say, then we lose the audience and point quickly.

For the sake of this arguement, I will say it is not ALL atheists. However, as with all things, if the shoe fits.......

davad70

on Dec 11, 2005

Louisianna is Catholic! Doh! Do you always post irrelevant stuff, or do you have to research it to find the stupidest thing to write!
Not get your lilly white tail over to Alabama, Mississippi, Rural Gawga, North or South Carolina (not in the gentrified cities). Then report back! After you tell them you are a papist.

I've also spent considerable time in MS and was stationed in AL in the Army. I'm aware of no persecution of catholics there either. Can you post some information on this rampant catholic persecution you speak of?

My "lilly white tail" ? Now you even know my racial makeup?

or do you have to research it to find the stupidest thing to write!

I really have to get back on the Christian train like you. Christ's redemption has truly transformed you. I'm sure Christ himself would post tolerant and uplifting comments very much like yours. You truly have followed the direction of Jesus and have become a fisher of men.

davad70

on Dec 11, 2005

And so, yes I slam them in this article, and in many of the comments.

Again...following the example of Jesus. "Slamming" for Christ!

Dan Kaschel

on Dec 11, 2005

It is about allowing you to beleive, or not, in anything you want. And allowing me to do the same.

Now that's just stupid. As a Christian, by "allowing" others to believe differently, you're passively making them go to hell. All an atheist is doing by "allowing" you to believe differently is doing his own thing. What you're suggesting is nigh-unto-criminal for a Christian, and a mere choice for an Atheist.

Dan

bakerstreet

on Dec 12, 2005

"Now that's just stupid. As a Christian, by "allowing" others to believe differently, you're passively making them go to hell."

Free will is a bitch, ain't it? Some might say it shows a lack of faith to believe that God doesn't take any initiative in reaching these people. When you start talking about "allowing" people to believe something, you invite people who don't believe as you do to brush off "allowing" you to be a Christian.

The leadership in Saudi Arabia isn't much for "allowing" people to believe what they want, either.

Dr Guy

on Dec 12, 2005

Again...following the example of Jesus. "Slamming" for Christ!

As another philosopher once said, sometimes it is better to slap the hand than to hold it.

Dr Guy

on Dec 12, 2005

As a Christian, by "allowing" others to believe differently, you're passively making them go to hell.

That may be the case for some Christians, but not all of them. And not me. By allowing you to beleive or not, I am not forcing you to do anything. That is what your actions do. And as adults, we are responsible for our own actions, not everyone elses.

Dr Guy

on Dec 12, 2005

The leadership in Saudi Arabia isn't much for "allowing" people to believe what they want, either.

Very true. And what they believe is not what I believe. I like the option to believe what I want to.

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Dec 15, 2005

As a Christian, by "allowing" others to believe differently, you're passively making them go to hell

Any that do find themselves in Hell have no one but themselves to blame. It's a choice one makes while walking upon this earth.

Having said that.....we do have a responsibilty to let them know there is an alternative.

Dr Guy

on Dec 16, 2005

Having said that.....we do have a responsibilty to let them know there is an alternative.

There is informing, and then there is Proselytizing.

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