Atheists: Methinks he doth protest too much

Published on December 6, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

Dave Silverman, a coming out of the closet Atheist (if I was gay, I would bitch slap the jerk) has decided that atheists cant be atheists because of persecution from the "religious right". Well, before I get into the meat of this article let me offer him a boo hoo! hey jerk! I am a Catholic! You think they like me any better?

http://www.atheists.org/comingout/othercloset.html

But perhaps the reason that you feel so ostracized is because you are doing the persecution? ya think? maybe just a little?

Oh! So what do we have now. Well anyone who reads the news knows about Michael Newdow and his quest to banish mention of God (why? If you don't believe in Him, why be afraid of his name? You don't sound like an Atheist, more like a BC idol worshiper or a pagan).

Now we have a bunch of needle nose atheist objecting to honoring fallen Utah State Troopers! And how are they honored? SHOCK! GASP! "I am coming to you Elizabeth!"

They are erecting crosses, most on private property, along the highways of Utah! No message of "Jesus is going to get you!" or "Burn in hell Infidel" (I kind of like that one, it rhymes). Just simple, plain crosses.

I have seen many along the highways here in Va! And SHOCK! GASP! On the public right of way along the highways. Honoring those that have died at or near those spots.

yet the Atheists are up in arms over this! They are melting! Melting!

So Mr. Silverman, if you want to "Come out of the closet", by all means do so! But don't blame those YOU are persecuting for putting you there. You are just another sniveling coward that likes to dish it out, but cant take it.

Jerk.

Comments (Page 3)

Lee1776

on Dec 07, 2005

Oh, and if you dont think that Catholics are persecuted just as badly, more so in many instances, than Atheists, you have not lived in the rural south.

I spent eight months near Wake Forest North Carolina, while I was a practicing Catholic. Then again for two months, years later, after I became an Atheist. You can't get any more Religious South then when your only afew miles away from the South Baptist Seminary.

I always woundered what it would be like to drive around Wake Forest with a Darwin Fish on the bumper.

Chaos Manager

on Dec 07, 2005

I always woundered what it would be like to drive around Wake Forest with a Darwin Fish on the bumper.

Looking to get jumped, are we?

That's almost as bad as driving around Southside Richmond (or East LA) with a Klan hood hanging in your truck window.

Dr Guy

on Dec 07, 2005

How can I lose something that I never believed existed in the first place. What have I to lose?

I think she means you lose your immortal soul. And that is a long time to regret, eh?

Dr Guy

on Dec 07, 2005

Just remember that I'm not the one doing the persecuting. I'm happy to let you practice your faith and feel inspired and comforted in whatever manner works for you.

There are jerks on both sides. However, as you point out, Christians are the majority, and the majority are not trying to convert you. Some are. Personally, I have no problem with your beliefs. And even in my religion articles, I am not out to convert. I am only out to educate. I doubt I have influenced anyone to my beleifs. Which is fine. But at least now some non-catholics understand some of my beleifs.

Dr Guy

on Dec 07, 2005

spent eight months near Wake Forest North Carolina, while I was a practicing Catholic. Then again for two months, years later, after I became an Atheist. You can't get any more Religious South then when your only afew miles away from the South Baptist Seminary.

Close but no cigar. Too metropolitan. Do you know what my GPIL told me when I dared ask their grand daughter to marry them? (and they never actually hated me, but....)

"There are some good Catholics and there are some bad Catholics."

And they loved their granddaughter!

Dr Guy

on Dec 07, 2005

That's almost as bad as driving around Southside Richmond (or East LA) with a Klan hood hanging in your truck window.

I would say nearer to petersburg!

Lee1776

on Dec 07, 2005

Close but no cigar. Too metropolitan. Do you know what my GPIL told me when I dared ask their grand daughter to marry them? (and they never actually hated me, but....)

Ouch and sorry to hear, but that brings back memories of my own. Being from Nevada, I dated a few Mormons when I was single. I must admit, I have had a marriage proposal turned down myself, because I was not a Mormon. Her family would have thrown her out and in a very strong Mormon family like her’s, it can be equal to being excommunicated.

The Mormon Church's home website even openly advises against dating non-Mormons. It even gives examples of how children of a Mormon-Non Mormon marriage, awkwardly asking why Daddy/Mommy don't attend Church or family events with the rest of the family.

Chaos Manager

on Dec 07, 2005

I would say nearer to petersburg!

A couple of the counties near here (Dinwiddie and Prince George, in particular) have a high percentage of hicks (which are not to be confused with Rednecks. Rednecks are nice, hicks are just ... hicks). I mean, the grandson of one of the county supervisors was named Nathan Bedford Forrest [name removed to protect the innocent]. The supervisor in question objected, but it's the nature of some of the folks in the area to go that route.

So, yeah, it does tend to happen here and people do tend to get a little worked ... up? over? about it.

dharmagrl

on Dec 07, 2005

I go about my business, quietly not believing, while many Christians find it necessary to aggressively attempt to convert me, remind me frequently that they are praying for me, chiding me for my lack of belief (even non-practicing Christians have done this to me), and flooding my inbox with religious emails and dire warnings about how freedom of religion is being eroded.

I get it. You guys feel persecuted. Never mind that you're the majority.

You got it. I wondered how long it would take until you saw it. Aint it grand? Christianity IS the majority, yet somehow they have namaged to convince themselves that they're being presecuted, that their rights are somehow being eroded because some of us who don't believe or think the way they do complain about the incessant evangelism we're subjected to on an almost daily basis.

Sorry DG..

KFC Kickin For Christ

on Dec 07, 2005

Christianity IS the majority

Well I guess I'll be in the minority with this here.....but I don't think (true) Christianity is the majority. Many call themselves Christians but are no way near showing the evidence they are. In other words a "said" faith only. I know because I was there at one time myself. Most of the groups I worshipped with in the past were Christian in title but not in practice. Many of the so called "Christian" groups out there are nothing more than clubs that pretend to be Christians. This is why many have been disgusted with the "so called Christians" out there. Well maybe, just maybe they're not.

I even heard someone this week call themself a Buddhist Christian.???? There is no such thing.

I think for the most part Christianity is under attack. You see this all over the place. Not only in other countries but here as well. I don't know how many times I've heard kids having to take their cross necklaces off and in some cases turn their tee-shirts inside out because they have a Christian message on the front.

Jesus himself said the way to eternal life will be narrow and the way of the world would be wide. I believe that's true....for one thing he said it and another I see it. It takes more than just saying you're a Christian. You should have something going on that is showing the evidence of it. The proof is in the pudding my mother used to say.

Lee1776

on Dec 08, 2005

I even heard someone this week call themself a Buddhist Christian.???? There is no such thing.

But you can be a Buddhist Christian. Buddhism really a philosophy, not a true religion. It is unfortunate that about half of all Buddhist would consider it a religion and the other half not, but Buddha himself would be rolling over in his grave if he learned to what some have made of his writings. Buddha was a wise man that had great insight into man kind and provided a good moral compass to all those he passed, but he was far from a god. Almost every Cultural Geography text book there is usually dedicates a full chapter explaining just that.

If your open minded enough to some good outlooks on life, just pick up a book on Buddha and try to find out how you could get a religion out of Buddha's writings.

Dr Guy

on Dec 08, 2005

The Mormon Church's home website even openly advises against dating non-Mormons. It even gives examples of how children of a Mormon-Non Mormon marriage, awkwardly asking why Daddy/Mommy don't attend Church or family events with the rest of the family.

I know Utah is heavily Mormon, but was unaware that Nevada was so populated as well. Sorry for your experience. I never ask the ladies I am dating what their religion is. I figure if things went further, that was what was important.

Dr Guy

on Dec 08, 2005

A couple of the counties near here (Dinwiddie and Prince George, in particular)

I forgot but was reminded this morning about the clown in Chesterfield that refused to sell his house to a black lady - "Cause I got a deed restriction about selling to coloreds". He lost in court of course. They are still around, the object is just to stay clear of them!

Nathan Bedford Forrest, eh?

Dr Guy

on Dec 08, 2005

Sorry DG..

No apology necessary. And since we have laws to protect minorities in this country, it is possible and indeed it is happening that the majority gets persecuted. The cop that comes to take down your cross may be a Christian, but he is also a law officer and must obey the laws. So when you say that we cannot be persecuted, that is not true. I wont force my religion on you, dont force yours on me. When you start nit picking because a tiny cross is in the seal of the City of LA (to represent its roots, not promote a religion), then that is plain and simple persecution for the percieved idea that some person has a religious agenda.

This is the same situation. The state is trying to honor their deceased troopers, not promote any religion. Yet the militant Atheists want us to put up white blobs to signify what? I would really like to know how a memorial to fallen officers is forcing a religion down anyone's throat.

Dr Guy

on Dec 08, 2005

I dont think anyone is debating the quality of the majority. But while many do not act like christians, the fact remains that a majority of America professes the faith of Christians.

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