Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

Recently, the 9th Circus court of appeals issued a ruling that said that Parents have no right to deny their children exposure to smut.  The actual case was not about smut, but Sex education, but to some conservative christians, it amounts to the same thing.

So in effect, while the 9th Circus can miraculously find a right to privacy in the Constitution when it comes to Abortion, and they can find that Parents are responsible for children, they cannot find a right for the parent to have control over what their child is exposed to!

No right to privacy!

It really amazes me how these liberal jurists minds work.  For the life of me, I can not fathom it!  I think in a logical way.   If a=b, unequivocally, and b=c, unequivocally, then a must equal c.  To suggest anything else would be to defy the laws of the universe.

Yet, the 9th Circus manages to do just that in their latest ruling.  privacy=Right.  Parental responsibility =Right.  Parental ability to protect Child <> Right.

It really is mind boggling to see the illogic of the liberal mindset.  yet that does not stop them from thinking they are mainstream, and I am extreme.  Because I believe in the rule of law, not the rule to make laws.

Amazing!  Simply Amazing.


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on Nov 18, 2005
Yeah, I have a REAL problem with this one. If a stranger were to go up to a child and ask them sexually explicit questions, it would be considered sexual abuse. How is this any different?

If some parents feel these surveys are constructive, sure, let their kids be exposed to it. I'm not into "prude" parenting, but I would be furious if either one of my children were forced to fill out a sexually explicit survey.

It's my right and prerogative as a parent to determine what is age-appropriate and what is in line with my beliefs as far as sexual education for my children goes.

Ugh. This is awful.
on Nov 18, 2005
Thankfully, in our school district, I have the right to access the materials being taught, and to select alternative "health class" materials if I desire. So far, I haven't had issue with the materials chosen by the faculty, but it's nice to know that I have the choice of opting out when and if I see fit.

This is nuts.
on Nov 18, 2005

If some parents feel these surveys are constructive, sure, let their kids be exposed to it.

Actually, a school division in this state did just that.  Asked the parents if they could ask the children. Did not seem to be a problem to anyone here. Those who did not like it, opted out.

on Nov 18, 2005

Thankfully, in our school district, I have the right to access the materials being taught, and to select alternative "health class" materials if I desire.

So do we, but then we are not in the 9th Circus jurisdiction.

on Nov 18, 2005
Like the other reponses, our school district makes all the sex ed materials available to the parents for review. My wife and I took the opportunity and found nothing that we had a problem with. To me, any honest educator should have no problem with parents' having input in any part of the education system. That might be the problem though, the "judges" on the 9th Circus Court wouldn't know honesty or integrity if it body slammed them.
on Nov 18, 2005

To me, any honest educator should have no problem with parents' having input in any part of the education system.

Amen!

on Nov 18, 2005
hearing the questions that were asked on that particular survey, I was reminded of the pilot in Airplane! talking to the little boy. "Billy, do you like... gladiator movies?" I wonder how many sicko Kinsey types are floating around in the bureaucracy that makes these things...
on Nov 18, 2005
I was reminded of the pilot in Airplane! talking to the little boy. "Billy, do you like... gladiator movies?"


Bakerstreet, have you ever seen a grown man, naked? ;~D
on Nov 18, 2005
yes, Para, have you... ever been in a turkish prison?
on Nov 18, 2005
I was not happy to hear about this decision...but what can you expect from the 9th Circus as Dr Guy so eloquently put it? Basically what they said to the parents was...sit down, shut up, pay your taxes and give us your children.

Here in my area we have issues with the Sex Ed class in the HS. They have been pushing flavored condemns enticing the kids to taste and experiment giving out prizes at the health fair if they will put one on a stick figure. As a result, we have formed a group called Alliance4children to combat this and so far the admin is listening. Changes are being made.

My children were taken out of the Health Classes in the HS here. Many other parents opted out for theirs as well. In my opinion as well as those of others, the woman teaching the sex-ed program is immoral..I didn't want what she was teaching for my kids. Many parents need to know this is a viable option...many around here didn't know that.
on Nov 18, 2005
Ummmm Doc...notice anything different?
on Nov 18, 2005
yes, Para, have you... ever been in a turkish prison?


Never been to a Turkish prison, but I saw "Midnight Express" ;~D

I also spent a lot of time in the U.S. Army and the National Guards of 3 states. I have showered with hundreds of grown men, from lowly privates up to a few Colonels. No, I didn't hop to the position of attention, nor salute. In the shower, no one is wearing rank. ;~D
on Nov 18, 2005
Do you really expect consistency or logic from the 9th Circus?
on Nov 19, 2005

"Billy, do you like... gladiator movies?"

That was and is one of the greatest movies ever done! 

on Nov 19, 2005

Bakerstreet, have you ever seen a grown man, naked? ;~D

Do you have clearance Clarance?

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