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Published on October 17, 2005 By Dr Guy In Blogging

Sorry if my Darth Vader imitation is off by a bit.  I cant seem to get the nuance down at times.

Recently, 2 people have called me fatherly, or father like.  One I think was done in a spirit of good natured ribbing, and the other in the heat of debate.  For the life of me, I don't see how any one can say I am fatherly, father like, or paternal.  I never had one!

My father left me when I was 4.  I saw him once in my life after that.  I probably would not have recognized him if I did see him (and indeed that one time I did see him, I had to be told by my paternal Grandparents who he was - I was not amused).

I had a step father as well.  And he was about as useful as a pay toilet in a diarrhea ward.  His children hate him.  I don't.  I just pity the fool.  The only father figure I ever had was my maternal grandfather, and while I admire him a lot, I did not live with him, so he did not raise me.  The few times we got to spend together I do remember with a lot of fondness (and he did teach me how to tie flies and hooks), but that really was not being a father figure, although he was never contemptuous of me.

I blew it with my own children.  Realize too late in some of their lives that "when you die, you will not miss the times you worked 12 hours a day, you will regret the times not spent with family and friends".  I did not have to die for that, but I did wait way too long to stop working 5 jobs and start spending quality time with my children.

My youngest, is the luckiest as he was only 6 when I finally decided that enough was enough and my children were disappearing before my eyes.  But it is tough only having my son every other weekend and sharing holidays.  At least I was given a second chance with him and my oldest son.  My daughters were too old and just resent the fact that I was not a wage slave to their mother until the day I died.

So in a nut shell, I am not a fatherly figure.  Hell, I don't even know how to be a good father!  I sure wish I did, and perhaps in time I will have a second chance with my grandchildren.  But, Luke, I am not your father.  And you should be damn glad I am not.

I have not failed at much in my life when I wanted to do something, but I failed my children as a father for 17 years, just like my father failed me all his life.


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on Oct 17, 2005
Talk about taking stock, eh? I'm sorry for the relationship you have (or don't have) with your girls. It's not only your loss, but in my eyes, theirs as well - even if you don't agree.

Here are some reasons I think of you as fatherly...

1. You give advice from time to time, and most times, I can hear MY father's voice echoing in my head as I read what you have written. I was blessed to have a wonderful father, so this is meant as a compliment.

2. You have shown a great affinity for learning from your mistakes. No... in light of past experiences you may never get a "father of the year" award, but the fact that you can take your past and admit failure... not only that, but use it to alter the way you see things and act in the present, that to me is an incredible gift. We should all be so lucky to be able to first of all recognize our weaknesses, but more importantly, figure out how to take what we've learned and better ourselves for that knowledge. I think our ability to do that improves as we mature.

3. You are an intelligent, experienced man. I'm not naive enough to think my father knows everything, but I do realize that he knows more than I do. I look forward to learning from you as well.

4. There is a warmth and sincerity about you that is both inviting and refreshing. Your comments are never untruthful, yet they are always made with respect and maturity. You appear to be genuinely caring and optimistic - looking for the best in people. That doesn't mean always agreeing (is it loving to not warn your friend he's about to fall into an uncovered manhole?), but it does mean truthfully desiring the best for someone else. Ok, so it's the internet, and you could be scamming everyone... but let me continue to live in oblivion if that's the case. *s*

5. You are (I'm guessing) typical "father" age. Old enough to have grandkids... but not so old as to have forgotten the child-rearing years. Not an observation about your parenting skills - just the age thing.


I wish that your daughters could have the privilege of knowing you now... of seeing how you've changed... of hearing your regrets and apologies. It saddens me to think of what they're missing out on by not being a part of your life. And makes me thankful that I am.
on Oct 17, 2005
Wow I agree with everything HC said....HC just saved me some typin!!

But I'll add some.

I think you are well spoken (written) and you have an incredible sense of humor.

I think calling you Fatherly may have a lot to do with your nickname. It is hard for me to picture what you look like because I keep superimposing a doctor in your place. And most of the doctors I've known have a "fatherly" kinda presence. So maybe you should post a picture! Yeah! That's what you should do.

I think you should stop beating yourself up about the kind of father you are. Even if your girls don't recoginze you as such, you will be a father until the day you die. Excuse you for working and trying to make a good living for your family....come on. That's not something to be ashamed of....you should be proud of that. My husband works hard, and is gone a lot, but he does it because that is his way of showing he loves us. Does he miss things? Yes. But so what? Imagine how much more he'd miss if he was a lazy bum who couldn't get off the couch.

My dad gave me up for a psycho woman who hated me. I was mad at him for a long time, and then, well I GOT OVER IT. I do believe parents who love their kids do the best they can at the time with what they have available. Just because EVERY decision isn't selfless...well, that makes them human doesn't it?

Once kids are grown and on their own, they have to stop blaming their parents for everything wrong in their life.

Sorry that is just something that irks me.

I think you learned from your mistakes. In all the world, what more can we actually expect from someone? IT sounds like you did the best with what you had. Nuff said.

WHOA. Didn't mean to go so far afield there...sorry.

Would it make you feel better if I call ya sexy?????

Just let me know....anything for the doc!
on Oct 17, 2005
Wow and Wow! Doc, it's insightful looking at you through this piece, not as a failing dad, but rather as a wonderful and caring person that you are. I agree with HC one hundred percent im 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5!

Nicely summed up HC!

And Doc, you might not seem to be a wonderful to you, but I'm sure if you ask your boys, they would give a different answer. You faced your parental mistakes and corrected most of them. You're giving them time now, even if your girls won't give you the time of day, sorry to say that it is their loss. Perhaps one day they will come to realise that they need you in their lives. Hopefully they will.

on Oct 17, 2005
Would it make you feel better if I call ya sexy?????


Sexy Doc! harhar....ok, not too funny...Doc...you're sexy!

on Oct 17, 2005
MM grabs doc by the shirt, pulls him in close, plants a wet one on his mouth and says "dad" heh heh


runs away laughing.......
on Oct 17, 2005
MM grabs doc by the shirt, pulls him in close, plants a wet one on his mouth and says "dad" heh hehruns away laughing.......

ROFL... you're just jealous (or feeling threatened maybe?) cuz the women are callin' doc "sexy"... so much for your Pod Person-like elitism!
on Oct 17, 2005

Here are some reasons I think of you as fatherly...

That is a very nice and moving testament, and I appreciate it.  The one thing I can say is I dont make the same mistake twice, so yes I have learned a lot.  I also learned that the one thing that has no refund or trade in is time.  Once gone, it can never be recaptured.

Thank you.

on Oct 17, 2005

I think calling you Fatherly may have a lot to do with your nickname.

Thank you as well Tova7.  I never thought of my nickname being a source of the image, but I can definitely see that it could be.  We all love the crusty old doctor who knows everyone and helps all (like the Doctor in Doc Hollywood).  As I explained on Terpfan's blog, I picked that as my moniker in tribute to my Great Uncle, a very famous man.  I guess if you are right, then I am doing a good job of honoring him by using it.

Thank you again.

on Oct 17, 2005

And Doc, you might not seem to be a wonderful to you, but I'm sure if you ask your boys, they would give a different answer.

You know the best thing I have ever heard in my life?  My youngest son was having some problems, and (as I always wanted to be), in my fatherly way, I solved them for him (something to do with a class paper that was due).  He told me "Thanks dad, you are the best".

He gets all I own when I go!

JK.  I will not favor on of my children over the others, even tho my wife hates they way the girls treat me.

on Oct 17, 2005

Sexy Doc! harhar....ok, not too funny...Doc...you're sexy!

Like Wilford Brimley?  Not that old yet, but sometimes I do feel like him.  At least he is the 'fatherly doctor' type that Tova talked about in my mind.

on Oct 17, 2005

MM grabs doc by the shirt, pulls him in close, plants a wet one on his mouth and says "dad" heh heh

Ptooie!  Eewww!  One thing I am is male.  I never could or do get use to men kissing!  No offense Mod, but a slap on the back would have been better.  Or even a pound on the shoulders?

on Oct 17, 2005

ROFL... you're just jealous (or feeling threatened maybe?) cuz the women are callin' doc "sexy"... so much for your Pod Person-like elitism!

Nah!  MM aint jealous.  I get a day, he has the other 364.

on Oct 17, 2005
#11 by Dr. Guy
Monday, October 17, 2005


MM grabs doc by the shirt, pulls him in close, plants a wet one on his mouth and says "dad" heh heh

Ptooie! Eewww! One thing I am is male. I never could or do get use to men kissing! No offense Mod, but a slap on the back would have been better. Or even a pound on the shoulders?


nope from my old scooter tramp days, we use to kiss to blow the ground pounders minds. ha.
on Oct 17, 2005
nope from my old scooter tramp days, we use to kiss to blow the ground pounders minds. ha.


Elie I can just imagine a bunch of bikers doing that just to scare the town folks!Harhar....


on Oct 17, 2005
If you think I'm gonna start calling a young whippersnapper like you Dad,it ain't gonna happen!
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