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Published on October 17, 2005 By Dr Guy In Blogging

Sorry if my Darth Vader imitation is off by a bit.  I cant seem to get the nuance down at times.

Recently, 2 people have called me fatherly, or father like.  One I think was done in a spirit of good natured ribbing, and the other in the heat of debate.  For the life of me, I don't see how any one can say I am fatherly, father like, or paternal.  I never had one!

My father left me when I was 4.  I saw him once in my life after that.  I probably would not have recognized him if I did see him (and indeed that one time I did see him, I had to be told by my paternal Grandparents who he was - I was not amused).

I had a step father as well.  And he was about as useful as a pay toilet in a diarrhea ward.  His children hate him.  I don't.  I just pity the fool.  The only father figure I ever had was my maternal grandfather, and while I admire him a lot, I did not live with him, so he did not raise me.  The few times we got to spend together I do remember with a lot of fondness (and he did teach me how to tie flies and hooks), but that really was not being a father figure, although he was never contemptuous of me.

I blew it with my own children.  Realize too late in some of their lives that "when you die, you will not miss the times you worked 12 hours a day, you will regret the times not spent with family and friends".  I did not have to die for that, but I did wait way too long to stop working 5 jobs and start spending quality time with my children.

My youngest, is the luckiest as he was only 6 when I finally decided that enough was enough and my children were disappearing before my eyes.  But it is tough only having my son every other weekend and sharing holidays.  At least I was given a second chance with him and my oldest son.  My daughters were too old and just resent the fact that I was not a wage slave to their mother until the day I died.

So in a nut shell, I am not a fatherly figure.  Hell, I don't even know how to be a good father!  I sure wish I did, and perhaps in time I will have a second chance with my grandchildren.  But, Luke, I am not your father.  And you should be damn glad I am not.

I have not failed at much in my life when I wanted to do something, but I failed my children as a father for 17 years, just like my father failed me all his life.


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on Oct 17, 2005
better fatherly than motherly doc. heh
on Oct 18, 2005
What your daughters feel for you today is not necessarily what they're always going to feel about you. I'm sure their mother has not made it easy for you to repair it, either.

You say you blew it with your children. Well maybe you did. And there are the times you will never get back, but you still have time. Plenty of time, and time heals all wounds.

I'm the oldest of 5 boys, and my father was extremely strict. Without going into too much detail if I wanted to describe my father just think of Robert Duvall in "The Great Santini". The next oldest brothers are twins, and they were both very resentful for a long time. By the time son #5 was born, my father had changed some. And when his first grandchild was born he had changed considerably, and has mellowed a bit with each passing year. My two youngest brothers didn't experience the same father the twins and I experienced.

The reason I bring this up is despite all the things I went through, my father and I are closer today than ever. My father would never ever express any love towards me. He would tell me feeding me and clothing me was his way of saying he loved me. Now when we talk on the phone he ends each call with an "I love you". The first time I heard it it surprise the hell out of me, but what a nice surprise. His relationship with the twins is just as great as ours, too.

It doesn't matter if you say you're not a father figure, or if you don't even know how to be a good father. From the nice responses you recieved here they do find you fatherly, father like and paternal. Yes, a father figure. And as far as not knowing how to be a good father, well a good father learns from his mistakes. You have. A good father realizes when something is wrong with his relationship with his kids to do something about it. You have.

You were giving a second chance with your sons, and look at what people have done with second chances, like my father. Bill Belichik was considered a coaching bust in his first job with Cleveland. His second chance came with New England. How's that second chance working out for him? I sincerely hope you get your second chance with your daughters.

Sorry for the length.
on Oct 18, 2005

Think of it as a term of endearment, rather than a classification

Ok, I will accept that.

on Oct 18, 2005

better fatherly than motherly doc. heh

Fortunately, I dont have man boobs yet.

on Oct 18, 2005

Sorry for the length.

No problem on the length.  I am glad you and your father understand each other today.  Seems your father realized he needed to change as well, and did a very good job of it from what you say.

I am not going to give up on my daughters, but with each passing day, it is hard.  I try not to dwell on it, but it is always there in the back of my mind, especially when my wife insists on seeing father of the bride for the 100th time!

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