PETA: Sinking to New lows

They have hit bottom and started to dig

Published on August 1, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

In another show of callous disregard to the human race or anything approaching humanity, PETA has a new Ad Campaign against people. Except this time they really have gone too far! Instead of enobling their cause, which I am sure was their aim, they just demonstrate how callous and inhumane they are.

In the latest Ad campaign, they are equating selling breeding cattle and horses to the horror of the slave trade 200 years ago! They are not enobling their cause, they are cheapening the plight of the blacks of that age! And that is just plain sickening!

If there was any shred of humanity or compassion in those clowns before, it is apparent that they have none now. It is too bad that they take what is arguably one of the most tragic times in American history and belittling it by comparing it to the selling of Cattle!

They are beneath contempt! They do not deserve even the effort for spitting on them, for that would be to acknowledge them as contemptable, and that is too good for those creeps.

Comments (Page 12)

166

KarmaGirl

on Aug 19, 2005

I stand corrected and will try to be more careful in my use of the terms in the future.

Just don't ever call me a Vegan. That's against my religion: "The Church of Cheese" LOL

167

Dr Guy

on Aug 19, 2005

Just don't ever call me a Vegan. That's against my religion: "The Church of Cheese"

Is the way to your heart through a chocolate covered cheese cake?

168

drmiler

on Aug 19, 2005

Unless you are talking about the milkers, which aren't even weaned from their Moms before they are slaughtered (yeah, that sounds ethical), yeah, they are made anemic by not being allowed to eat grains and grass when they are at the age that they need to. Instead, they are continued to be fed "formula" and kept in a veal house away from pasture. I've always lived in farm country, so I'm not oblivious to how things really work on farms.

"lived in a farm country" is not even close to growing up on an actual working "dairy farm" my dear.

169

drmiler

on Aug 19, 2005

I use the term Vegans as a short term way of saying vegetarians.

Vegans and Vegetarians are different, though. Vegan is a real term for Vegetarians that don't eat *any* animal protein (eggs and dairy). Vegetarians do- they don't eat meat (and some don't eat eggs)

She got you on that one doc.

170

Champas Socialist

on Aug 22, 2005

Claiming animals are equal and claiming they are the same are quite different things.

Dr Guy, you are still approaching this from your own beliefs. It is irrelevant whether you think that their assertion that humans and animals are equal is a sustainable position. There are millions of arguments against what they have to say. (Incidentally I believe we are equal because humans and animals have souls, the rest is irrelevant, but my beliefs are also irrelevant to the current discussion). There are also millions of arguments against what Christians etc. believe too. That doesn't matter. If you start from PETA's starting point, then what they are doing, is what I said in my last post:

the Nazis had a viewpoint that was saying that Jews are worthless, as in they claimed Jewish people were worth less than what everybody else thought they were worth. PETA has not actually claimed that black people are worthless: they still believe that black people are important (just as much as you and I do), but they also believe that animals are equal to us (and ergo to black people). What's wrong with that?

171

Dr Guy

on Aug 22, 2005

"lived in a farm country" is not even close to growing up on an actual working "dairy farm" my dear.

No, but then knowing how veal is created, I chose not to eat it. I dont have to see it done to object to the manner in which it is done.

172

Dr Guy

on Aug 22, 2005

She got you on that one doc.

I already did my Mea culpa on it. I like meat, so I am very ignorant in the ways of vegetarians and Vegans.

173

Dr Guy

on Aug 22, 2005

If you start from PETA's starting point, then what they are doing, is what I said in my last post:

YOu miss the point as well. Try this experiment. Walk into a Synagogue and declare that Hitler did not go far enough with his Final Solution. Now if you manage to walk out alive, how many friends have you made? HOw many converts? How many people did you just totally piss off? Is that the right thing to say, even tho you come to it from the starting point of a Neo Nazi?

PETA is rapidly not only becoming a joke, but like the Neo-Nazis, an insult to every decent human being on the planet.

174

KarmaGirl

on Aug 22, 2005

"lived in a farm country" is not even close to growing up on an actual working "dairy farm" my dear.

Just because I didn't *live* on a dairy farm doesn't mean that I am ignorant to the dairy industry or other farm practices. One of my best friends in school lived on a dairy farm (as well as the fact that I was surrounded by them), do you think that I closed my eyes and ignored her farm while I was there visiting? My parents raised chickens, do you think I forgot what plucking a chicken was like? Both my parents grew up on farms, that also meant that both sets of Grandparents had farms. Just because I don't live on one doesn't mean that I don't have "farm" experience... BTW, where is your rebuttal explaining how the way veal is treated is considered ethical?

175

Dr Guy

on Aug 22, 2005

BTW, where is your rebuttal explaining how the way veal is treated is considered ethical?

Peeks out from under cover....

I said I dont eat veal. can I have my head back?

176

Champas Socialist

on Aug 22, 2005

Oh look, I don't deny that they have very poor techniques for convincing others. I said that ages ago. What I'm saying is simply that if we rise above their juvenile level of debate, and actually analyse what it is they are trying to argue (rather than taking the ad just from what it says), then we might see that they aren't actually trying to denigrate any humans at all. They place a high value on human life, they simply place equal value on animal life (in theory at least). I'm not sure of their justifications for animals being equal to humans, but that's not really important.

177

Dr Guy

on Aug 23, 2005

They place a high value on human life,

That seems to be kind of contradictory with their funding of ELF and ALF both of which have destroyed property without regard to any human life that was in the path of destruction.

178

drmiler

on Aug 23, 2005

I never said/ implied that you were ignorant. If that what you think you read, I'm sorry. And I do not see the vealers treatment as unethical. I was raised on the dairy farm and that like corn or oats or hay....they were a crop. And crops need to be harvested.

179

Dr Guy

on Aug 25, 2005

And crops need to be harvested.

Other wise why raise them and feed them?

180

drmiler

on Aug 25, 2005

And crops need to be harvested.

Other wise why raise them and feed them?

Exactly!

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