Why would it matter?

Bullets soaked in Pig Blood.

Published on July 13, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

The California National guard is under fire for a flier that states they were going to dip bullets in pig blood before firing them at, I would gather, Muslims.

At least it is the Muslims that are up in arms about it. But one has to ask why? If they are going to be in the cross hairs of a National Guard Rifle, it pretty much means they have already committed enough sins to prevent them from getting into ValHalla (oops, wrong religion) heaven anyway. And if these supposed peaceful Muslims are decrying the violence of the animals, what would they care if the bullets were dipped into pigs blood. They have already been denied that right by killing innocent women and children.

It would only matter if these supposed 'peaceful' Muslims dont really believe their own hype and truly think these animals are going to heaven after killing innocent women and children. And if that is the case, how 'peaceful' can they really be? They may not be pulling the trigger, or detonating the bombs, but by their quiet or overt support, they are supporting the animals. And that, in any civilized land, is called an accessory. They may not get death for it, like the perp could, but they do not get a walk either.

It is time that these murdering animals to stop being coddled. And for the real accessories to their crimes to be tried and convicted as accessories. It wont get the citizens deported, or the death penalty, but maybe it will dry up the support for the barbarous animals.

Comments (Page 1)

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

Were it a new idea, but......

The flier attributed the practice to World War I General John J. Pershing

Zoomba

on Jul 13, 2005

I think one can be outraged at this without necessarily supporting the terrorists. It is an act that is specifically targeted at a religious tennent. How would a Christian feel if it was decided radical christian terrorists (the ones that bomb abortion clinics for example) were caught and stabbed with crosses? Or a radical Jew shot with the same pigs blood bullet?

The problem here is that it is showing contempt for both the terrorist, and the religion the terrorist claims to follow. The two are separate despite what so many like to believe nowadays.

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

Kill em first, then send em straight to hell as 'unclean.'

I think their actions already condemned them to hell. The pigs blood would not change their fate.

Island Dog

on Jul 13, 2005

The problem here is that it is showing contempt for both the terrorist, and the religion the terrorist claims to follow. The two are separate despite what so many like to believe nowadays.

The two are not separate.

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

The problem here is that it is showing contempt for both the terrorist, and the religion the terrorist claims to follow. The two are separate despite what so many like to believe nowadays.

But are not the terrorist, who are killing innocent women and children, already showing contempt for their religion? And the examples you state mean nothing to Christians and Jews. For they dont believe you can be killed 'uncleanly'. Just that you are condemned to hell by your actions.

To the Muslims professing peace, it is not a mockery. It is the law of Sharia. An eye for an eye etc.

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

The two are not separate.

If Islam is a religion of peace, then it is. But then the terrorist have already excommunicated themselves from their religious beliefs as well.

Zoomba

on Jul 13, 2005

Island:
If we can not separate terrorist from Islam, then how can we separate the nutjobs on our side that commit crimes, murder etc in the name of Christ from Christianity? The radical individual is not synonymous with the larger faith. Hell, the individual period isn't synonymous with the faith they profess (the exception being religious leaders and figures such as clergy or clerics). To assert otherwise is an insult to every innocent and peaceful member of the religion you're generalizing about

Guy:
True, there are no real matches in Judaism and Christianity, but the closest you can come is to defile holy symbols or life tennants in the act of killing someone. My point was the flier was specifically targeting a religious concept of Islam, and thus was likely to anger Muslims who don't necessarily support terrorism. There has been a lot of anger in the US directed towards Muslims as a block, lumping them all together as if they're all the same. I've seen it first-hand even here in UberLiberal Connecticut, and a lot back home in PA. I've seen it here on JU too. The backlash against this one is more the backlash against continual generalization from those of us on the outside.

I think we shouldn't treat terrorists as Muslims at all, treat them as if they have no God are are just members of a cult. Sure they yell and scream about Allah, but they are only serving the twisted image in their heads. Ignore their professed faith and treat them like the monsters they are.

Texas Wahine

on Jul 13, 2005

It would only matter if these supposed 'peaceful' Muslims dont really believe their own hype and truly think these animals are going to heaven after killing innocent women and children.

Very interesting thought there, Dr.Guy.

It doesn't seem like a very practical thing to do, and I'm sure it would never in a million years come to fruition, but...

If the common, decent Muslim folks believe that the terrorists are an affront to Allah, and see themselves as separate from the terrorists, then why would it matter to them? Wouldn't they already believe that the terrorists have forfeited their chance at paradise? As you said...why would it matter to them?

Island Dog

on Jul 13, 2005

If we can not separate terrorist from Islam, then how can we separate the nutjobs on our side that commit crimes, murder etc in the name of Christ from Christianity? The radical individual is not synonymous with the larger faith. Hell, the individual period isn't synonymous with the faith they profess (the exception being religious leaders and figures such as clergy or clerics). To assert otherwise is an insult to every innocent and peaceful member of the religion you're generalizing about

The "nutjobs" on the right are not embraced by mainstream Christianity. Nor do they commit mass murder and destabilize entire economies. But we could talk about islamic states like Saudi Arabia, Iran, you know, the places where democracy and rights for woman run rampant.

Can you tell me when was the last time a so-called moderate muslim gave a news conference condemning terrorism? Maybe you can tell me when was the last time muslims organized a public event to denouce terrorism? Someone here showed a poll of muslims that showed a great many of them support people like bin laden.

Islam is not a peaceful religion.

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

I think we shouldn't treat terrorists as Muslims at all, treat them as if they have no God are are just members of a cult.

Here is where I disagree. By your logic, we are insulting Muslims by eating Pork. Why? If the bullet is not aimed at a muslim, but a terrorist, then it does not insult their religion. Otherwise, everytime I have ham and eggs, I am insulting them, even tho I am not a muslim.

Dr Guy

on Jul 13, 2005

If the common, decent Muslim folks believe that the terrorists are an affront to Allah, and see themselves as separate from the terrorists, then why would it matter to them? Wouldn't they already believe that the terrorists have forfeited their chance at paradise? As you said...why would it matter to them?

Exactly!

And I also agree it will not happen in a million years. But that is what is fun about what ifs. What ifs are possible all the time.

Shovelheat

on Jul 13, 2005

Greeat idea! You could even put a drop of pig blood into hollow points! If that don't send the bastard to hell nuthin' will... I could really care less who's religion it insults, to be honest.

Myrrander

on Jul 13, 2005

You assume every person shot is a terrorist. Innocents get shot too.

This is the just the sort of idiocy I've expected from you, guy, glad to know you're still up to the task of getting outraged stupidly over stupid outrage.

sheesh

shadesofgrey

on Jul 13, 2005

Wouldn't also matter to the Members of the National Guard who are Muslim? They wouldn't be able to load their guns would they?

Evorg

on Jul 13, 2005

"Peace activists spotted the fliers during a tour last week."

We know how much they really care about peace.

Just look at all those protests at the embassies where terrorists come from.

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