There was a diatribe written by a left member of JU decrying the fact that we had to suffer 4 more years of George W. Bush recently. They (the articles on the suffering they must endure for another 4 years) are becoming rather comical, and to be laughed at instead of railed at (they should be posted under Humor, not Politics). Strange how you did not see conservatives moaning and whining about '4 more years' of Clinton 8 years ago.
But this one was different, and as the poster said, it is their blog and they can say what they want. Yes, they can say what they want. However, they stepped over the edge of decency when they started comparing the Jews and Israel to Hitler and Nazi Germany. Sorry folks, that got me and I went off. I probably should have ignorred it, as being a racists and bigot is your right, whether it is right or wrong.
But I could not let it go, and indeed, I jumped all over them for the following part:
Do you think Israel's behaviour is acceptable? Keeping the Palestinians in the giant concentration camps of Gaza and the West Bank, killing them, torturing them, treating them like dogs?
Yes, you see I dont see any of that happening. The Palestinians are NOT in concentration camps (do you think the Jews at Dachau or Auschwitz could get bombs and blow up German Civilians?) and their treatment is at their OWN hands, not the Israelis! That the israelis are trying to protect their own citizenry (which are majority jews, but also have people of all faiths and even no faith), and they have to put up with these racists and bigots comparing them to Nazis!
Well,. you are right, it is yoru own blog and you can say what you want, and this is my blog and I can say what I want.
I think there is a comparison, although it's not one you want to hear. Israel is exclusively designed for Jews, and non-Jews are treated as second class citizens - fact.
WRONG! Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Jews share equally in a democratic nation. That it was founded by Jews for jews is irrelevant (just like America was founded by Christians for Christians). In actual FACT, it is a non-secular nation. No one is forced to profess faith in Judaic law or belief.
Please tell me how the Palestinian plight is self-inflicted? For being on the wrong bit of land when Israel was created? Yeah - I can see why it's all their fault. For resisting peacfully for years, and realising that it was getting them nowhere, so they took up arms against one of the best equipped militaries in the world?
Wrong again! Jordan occupied and kept the Palestinians down Until Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza during the 6 day war. At no time did the Palestinians ever try for self government. If you want to Blame someone, Blame Jordan for not trying to help them to state hood in all the years they occupied the West Bank. But no, you only see the evil Jews!
The jews established a country with Laws. The Palestinians have taken up arms since day one and have never tried to create a country or LAWS. Peacefully resisting? Yea, like the 11 atheletes in Munich! So doves they are! read your history! Dont even try to proclaim that! You pretend to be against violence? Go use yourself as a human shield on a tel Aviv Bus some day!
That's not an anti-semetic statement, it's how things work in Israel.
No, that is how you would like it to work so you could then justify your hatred of Israel.
Palestinians are forced to carry papers, to live in ghettos, and see their livelihood of growing olives destroyed - they cannot work, they cannot make money, they cannot afford to feed themselves. They are humilitated on a daily basis by soldiers and settlers. They live under curfew. They live with the constant threat of being killed, interned or being tortured. This was how the Holocaust started. I don't want to see another Holocaust.
Being forced to Carry Papers is the worst that is happening to them, and it is because they are at war with Israel, and instead of just wiping them out, Israel is trying to catch the terrorist. They are not starving, and they are working! You look at Palesstine and see Sudan. Your view is so far off of reality as to be pure fantasy! Ghettos? You have no conception of a Ghetto! They are free to roam about as they please! IN a Ghetto, you have no right to move anywhere! What, do you think they 'escape' at night to plant those bombs? How myopic are you?
Ah! And there is another word! Holocaust! Yes people! I thought we would never forget the holocaust! But alas we have, and now when a bunch of bomb throwing terrorist are killed (and yes there is collateral damage, there always is in war), that is anotehr Holocaust!
Policies that carry state terrorism to the point of mass killings for political ends and "deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part" (Article 2(c) of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide), constitute genocide. I stand by my point. Don't call me a racist.
You would oh so want their to be 'mass killing' and yes there are. Of Israeli citizens. Israel has beene very measured in its response to its daily 9-11s. More measured than any other country could expect to be. Yes, there have been killings. In retaliation, and most of the time in a measured and intelligent way. Yet to you that is Genocide.
Excuse me, you also sated that Israel had a well armed and modern military. If that is the case, then you would also concede that if they wanted to, israel could have wiped out the Palestinians already as they just have sticks and stones and olive branches! What garbage!
The simple fact is that you are a racist bigot, and you proved it. Concentration Camps? Treated like Dogs? Ghettos? Holocaust? How many other nazi institutions do you want to conjure up? Just to feed your sick hatred of jews.
I dont hate you, I pity you. I pity the fact that you spout facts that are not facts but lies. All to justify your irrational hatred of a Race and Religion you dont understand, or a situation you have no comprehension of. I pity you because no amount of evidence, facts or eye witnesses will ever allow you to see the truth.
Wallow in your hatred. I guess like a pig in slop, you are happy that way.