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Published on April 16, 2008 By Dr Guy In International

This is what we are supposed to look up to an emulate?

At least some here, and abroad are holding up this as an example of what America should be.  A land where you can be arrested, fined and jailed for what?

 

"I am fed up with being under the thumb of this population which is destroying us, destroying our country and imposing its acts,"

 

That is Bridget Bardot's crime.  Just stating an opinion.

Now we can argue that she is wrong, misguided, racists, xenophobic, and many other things.  She may be all those things or none of them.  But all she did was STATE that.  She did not burn crosses, over turn vehicles, strap bombs to children, or shoot at them.  She only stated that.

It is more telling for what the French are doing, than anything Bardot has said.  It is a clear indication that 1984 has taken control of Europe, and that newspeak is the only acceptable form of free speech.  Kind of like the joke in the old USSR:

American: We have free speech! We can say anything we want about our government!

Soviet: We have free speech too!  We can say anything we want about your government too!

It is sad that with the dawn of the 21st century, America is being told by friends abroad, and by liberals at home, that to be great we have to emulate this kind of censorship.  It is sadder still when their willing sycophants mouth those same sentiments, not understanding that even while they may agree with the keepers of newspeak today, the keepers of tomorrow may not be in synchronization with them.

Europe has taken a large step back from freedom.  And the sad part of it is, they don't even realize they have just abrogated one of the most precious rights they had.  All in the name of political correctness.

I for one do not want to see America goose stepping to this new world order.


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on Apr 16, 2008
It's going to eventually be that way here too. We're already on that path, it's just a matter of time.
on Apr 16, 2008
It's going to eventually be that way here too. We're already on that path, it's just a matter of time.


Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. But like DOn Quixote, I will not stop tilting at that windmill.
on Apr 16, 2008
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. But like DOn Quixote, I will not stop tilting at that windmill.


Somebody has to do it
on Apr 16, 2008

That is too much like almost all of our futures are.

on Apr 16, 2008

Soon America will be the land of the not so free, the home of the less than brave.

on Apr 16, 2008
Somebody has to do it


I am interviewing for Sancho Panza now.
on Apr 16, 2008
That is too much like almost all of our futures are.


If we do not fight for them now, we will have nothing to fight for later.
on Apr 16, 2008
Soon America will be the land of the not so free, the home of the less than brave.


With few exceptions, I think we are there.
on Apr 17, 2008

hello? those laws have been around for like 20 years now.

on Apr 18, 2008
hello? those laws have been around for like 20 years now.


Dont you think it is about time they got rid of them?

This was not an article of history, but of the selective enforcement of muzzle laws. And the implication that America is heading down the same road.
on Apr 18, 2008

Dont you think it is about time they got rid of them?

It just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Very few people are complaining about them and politics (left & right) are voting new ones every other year. Just a few days ago, there was one about anorexia. Being a democracy, if the majority is OK with it, it's not going to change.

Given the late Europe history, I can certainly understand why those laws were enacted. America has a different history and hopefully there will never be that kind of censorship, but it has its own daemons to fight (death penalty comes to mind).

on Apr 19, 2008
It just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Very few people are complaining about them and politics (left & right) are voting new ones every other year.


I fear you are right. "Those who would sacrafice freedom for security, will have neither". Ben Franklin. As wise today was he was 250 years ago.
on Apr 20, 2008

It already is happening even here in the US, and it's not only freedom of speech. And most people don't care at all. I don't blame them, after all this is only to fight bad people that want to hurt the US citizens, why would they give a damn, right?

Have you tried taking the plane lately? Let's hear it from the DHS: "You forgo your right to privacy when you are seeking admission into the country" (http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/02/11/laptop.searches/index.html). And if it was the only thing: you basically don't have any right whatsoever (and if you're not an US citizen, you can be deported...)

All the laws passed in the recent years restricting freedom, the executive saying that wathever they do is legal, those are things that are much more scary to me than laws restricting freedom of speech (in a very specific way).

on Apr 21, 2008
Have you tried taking the plane lately? Let's hear it from the DHS: "You forgo your right to privacy when you are seeking admission into the country"


I fly frequently. And this one is even dicier. On the one hand, the Airlines have a right (as a private concern) to search anything going on their property. That does not abrogate our rights. However, they have entered into a shady agreement (more like the gingerbreadman and fox relationship) with the government as the enforcement arm. The TSA is a bad idea. It was creaTed out of fear due to 9-11 to address a situation that did not exist.

And yes, everytime congress raises their glasses in cheer, it is to another of our rights restricted or eliminated. And the people cheer.
on Apr 21, 2008
And yes, everytime congress raises their glasses in cheer, it is to another of our rights restricted or eliminated. And the people cheer.


Well, you see our enemy hates our freedom, right? Our strategy is to systematically eliminate our freedoms and thereby giving them nothing to hate.

That's from the John Oliver special that premiered last night on Comedy Central. I highly recommend it.

~Zoo
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