I cant believe it!  But my oldest and I just got through a discussion.  (heated at times, but not on my end).  I told him that Suicidal people were not selfish, just whacked!  And he argued the point with me!

I finally convinced him that, from a normal point of view, yes they are selfish, but to themselves in the act, they are not!

Strike one.

Then we argued about wackos and if they were responsible for their actions! (you know, Hinkley et al).  And then if retarded people could be held responsible for their actions.  I was arguing, no, they don't have the requisite intent!

My God!  Am I becoming a liberal?  No, I think not, and any one who has read me knows that.  But my son is growing up, and yes, it does swing both ways.  But after he told me his latest (after voting for Kerry), I see some great hope!

It is just a matter of time!  And another PBK finds reason!  I love it when a plan comes together!