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Published on October 27, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

A Roman Catholic High School Principal has told all his students that unless they delete all blogs, regardless of where they were created or maintained, they face suspension.  Just so you know up front, as this is a private school, they can do that.

The purported reason is to protect the students.  But is that not the purview of the parents after school hours?  really!  Let's get serious.  If the parents dont mind the children keeping a blog on a blog site, what is it the school's and this Man's responsibility?

We know that there are pedophiles out there, and indeed, I have one in my neighborhood.  So it is not like my kids need to blog for some slimeball to find them.  And the Internet does make somethings easier.

Case in point.  We had a runaway 17 year old girl here.  She met a guy, who pretended to be a 12 year old boy, online and ran off with a 57 year old man!  Ok, that one stinks, and she is back home and safe and he is in custody.  But if her parents were monitoring her online activity, it would never have happened.  And that is not hard, or expensive to do!

And while parents are abrogating rights to schools daily on their responsibilities, when the parents say they will take it, what right has another to say "not good enough".

But back to the opening paragraph.  Like the School in Californian that kicked a student out because his mother was in a lesbian relationship with another woman (no! really it was a man!), private schools make the rules.  And you dont have to like them, but if your child is going there, you have to live with them.

I dont like these rules by this principal.  And my children would not go there.  Unfortunately, many parents are totally clueless and will accept it.  Why?  Because they dont take the time to be more than caretakers.

We reap what we sow.  I am glad I have such safeguards on my children's computers.  And will not tolerate parental interferance from some wrong, if well meaning, educators.


Comments
on Oct 27, 2005
How dumb!... dont people pay exhorbitant amounts of money to send their children to these schools? If so then the principal has no right to tell the kids what they do on their own time, unless the parents of the children have been consulted and there is a general consensus on what should be allowed on school time, what the kids do outside of school time, out of uniform, has nothing to do with the principal.

I'd be telling them where they can go jump.

on Oct 27, 2005
I think it's one thing to have "rules for at school"
and I also think it's a form of communism to tell students what they
can't do at home under the parents roof!

I'm outraged to hear of this, no less.

I hope some people raise a uhhhhh a big noise about this!
on Oct 27, 2005
So a Catholic school is worried about online pedophiles?....Just thinking aloud...but, maybe they should be concerned with the ones a little closer to home...or shall I say church?

(tee hee, couldn't resist bringing that up)

~Zoo
on Oct 27, 2005
joe user isn't under attack (unless you're anticipating as the likely result of this prohibtion every kid in that diocese immediately signing up for an account here now it's forbidden--in which case, yeah, the kiddies' auxilliary will be further expanded).

what the msm story you reference (why believe this one when all the rest were such fanciful fabrications?) doesn't mention (but shoulda) is whether the prohibition extends solely to diocese-owned computers.

it's a whole different situation in that event, no?
on Oct 28, 2005

If so then the principal has no right to tell the kids what they do on their own time

IN Public School, you are exactly right.  But in Private school, you dance to their rules.  I understand the concern, but the actions of that school are just too big brotherish.

on Oct 28, 2005

I'm outraged to hear of this, no less.

I hope some people raise a uhhhhh a big noise about this!

Another big difference between public and private schools is that parents do have a lot more input in the private schools (the administration is basically all there, and not in some ivory tower at a different site).

That is the best way, if enough of the parents raise a ruckus.

on Oct 28, 2005

So a Catholic school is worried about online pedophiles?....Just thinking aloud...but, maybe they should be concerned with the ones a little closer to home...or shall I say church?

Groan!  I had not thought of that, but as soon as you said the bolded part, I saw it coming!

on Oct 28, 2005

joe user isn't under attack

Got your attention!

Seriously, no, JU itself is not (altho we do have some students blogging here).  But Bloggin in General is.

it's a whole different situation in that event, no?

No.  Because Blogs are not on the computer, they are on the internet.  So the statement:

A Roman Catholic high school has ordered its students to remove their online diaries from the Internet

Clearly says if they have a blog (anywhere, since it is not on school computers anyway), they face suspension.

Now if the School was hosting a blog site and made the order, that would be a horse of a different color.

on Oct 28, 2005
I had this story Wednesday night and considered blogging about it, but I couldn't find a way into it. It never occurred to me to frame it as JU being under attack.

Another reason I didn't bother was because, while I find their actions distasteful, they are technically allowed to set such a condition of admission.

There was a story about a Catholic school banning prom as a statement against materialistic excess I didn't touch for similar reasons. (Maybe I should dig that one out anyway....)


doesn't mention (but shoulda) is whether the prohibition extends solely to diocese-owned computers.


From what I read elsewhere, they are banned from blogging about the school or personal matters period.
on Oct 28, 2005

and I also think it's a form of communism to tell students what they
can't do at home under the parents roof!


Huh?
on Oct 28, 2005
they are banned from blogging about the school or personal matters period.


so this is no different than employees who deserve to be fired for blogging?
on Oct 28, 2005

I had this story Wednesday night and considered blogging about it, but I couldn't find a way into it. It never occurred to me to frame it as JU being under attack.

Hey!  It was a stretch, but since we are a blog community......

on Oct 28, 2005

Reply By: Leauki

I think she is implying that it is a form of total control of the individual, much like the communist societies practice.

on Oct 28, 2005

they are banned from blogging about the school or personal matters period.


so this is no different than employees who deserve to be fired for blogging?

That is true, and I am not arguing the legality of it as I did state in the opening paragraph:

Just so you know up front, as this is a private school, they can do that.

But even when somethings are legal, does not make them right.