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Published on October 6, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

Ok, how many charges, and or convictions has the Bush Administration had.  Numbers anyone?  Please list.

Now, how many charges and convictions did the Clinton Administration have.  Shall we compare notes?

Hmmm, seems that if there is a VRWC and a VLWC, the Right has more oomph and firepower!  And more facts! 

Garsh!  But then most intelligent people already knew that.


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on Oct 17, 2005

"It's not as though Iraq posed a threat to the United States."

That is the most telling statement you make.  It shows you in the mindset of Neville Chamberlain.  By your definition, unless they are bombing the white house, no one is a threat.


I never understood the wisdom of waiting until somebody becomes a threat before you take him out, especially when the somebody is a known mass murderer.
on Oct 17, 2005

Can you explain how Iraq was dangerous or posed a threat to the United States?

Directly?  You dont consider US Pilots to be american?  Bad form.  Why dont you define what an American is then.

Indirectly, do you condone sponsoring suicide bombers?  If so, please check your brain at the nearest toxic dump.

on Oct 18, 2005

I never understood the wisdom of waiting until somebody becomes a threat before you take him out, especially when the somebody is a known mass murderer.

That is because you understand that evil men exist, and to do nothing just empowers them to do more.

on Oct 18, 2005
First off, if a country is willing to attack countries that don't threaten it, then what are the guidlines for invading a country? Obviously the US didn't invade Iraq simply because Saddam is evil and he needs to be removed for the people of Iraq. If this were true then the US wouldn't support and encourage countries like Ubekistan, Equatorial Guinea or Turkmenistan.
It's also interesting to point out how Reagan and Bush 1 supported Suddam while he was commiting crimes against his own people.
And to say that the US invaded Iraq because Iraq was dangerous towards US fighter pilots is completely outlandish. The US goes to war to put it's military less at risk? And nevermind suicide bombers attacking America, what documented evidence is there that Saddam sponsored suicide bombers at all?
What has the US gained from invading Iraq? The US has lost billions of dollars in resources that could have been spent elsewhere.
on Oct 19, 2005
what documented evidence is there that Saddam sponsored suicide bombers at all?


This is an easy reply. Saddam gave $25,000 to every Suicide bomber's family in Israel.Link
on Oct 19, 2005

It's also interesting to point out how Reagan and Bush 1 supported Suddam while he was commiting crimes against his own people.


In contrast to widely held opinion among the left it is not important what is "interesting to point out" (and I don't argue that it is "interesting") but what is fact and can be proven.

I herewith challenge your statement and ask you if you can back up your claim AND tell me what it would take for you to accept that you are wrong.

As for Iraq's sponsorship of suicide bombers, I find it sad that there are people who have a strong opinion about Iraq and the invasion yet did not bother to read as much about it as it takes to even know what was on television. If all the left form their opinions like that, how can I take them seriously at all??? (Perhaps someone on the left can answer that?)
on Oct 19, 2005

And nevermind suicide bombers attacking America, what documented evidence is there that Saddam sponsored suicide bombers at all?

Probably the $25,000 in the bank account of their familes after the fact.  Just a minor detail.

You can equivocate all the reasons and justifications you want to.  You can even liberate Saddam if that is your idea of justice.  But the facts remain.  You wanted them, you got them.  At least you switched to trying to trivialize the facts after being presented with them.

on Oct 19, 2005

This is an easy reply. Saddam gave $25,000 to every Suicide bomber's family in Israel

Beat me to the punch!  I should have read farther.

on Oct 19, 2005

I herewith challenge your statement and ask you if you can back up your claim AND tell me what it would take for you to accept that you are wrong.

I think he is referring to the Iran war.  Which since we did not bomb them into oblivion meant we supported what he was doing.

I guess then by his logic, the UN supports genocide in Sudan and Rwanda?  Nice outfit the UN.

on Oct 19, 2005
First off, if a country is willing to attack countries that don't threaten it, then what are the guidlines for invading a country? Obviously the US didn't invade Iraq simply because Saddam is evil and he needs to be removed for the people of Iraq. If this were true then the US wouldn't support and encourage countries like Ubekistan, Equatorial Guinea or Turkmenistan.
It's also interesting to point out how Reagan and Bush 1 supported Suddam while he was commiting crimes against his own people.


Got any proof?


And to say that the US invaded Iraq because Iraq was dangerous towards US fighter pilots is completely outlandish. The US goes to war to put it's military less at risk? And nevermind suicide bombers attacking America, what documented evidence is there that Saddam sponsored suicide bombers at all?
What has the US gained from invading Iraq? The US has lost billions of dollars in resources that could have been spent elsewhere.


Outlandish "you" say? So a complete violation of a "CEASE-FIRE" agreement means what exactly? Less than nothing in your book right?
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