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Published on August 9, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

Here are 2 headlines from that AP:

"A 13-year-old giant panda gave birth to a cub at San Diego Zoo, but a second baby died in the womb, officials said Wednesday."--Associated Press, Aug. 3

"A cancer-ravaged woman robbed of consciousness by a stroke has given birth after being kept on life support for three months to give her fetus extra time to develop."--Associated Press, Aug. 3

Note both are from the same day.  Also note that an unborn panda is a baby, but a child born to a brain dead woman is still a fetus.

This is your brain.  This is your brain on stupidity.

Any questions?


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on Aug 10, 2005
Split it anyway you want, but dont say she gave birth to a fetus. She gave birth to a baby and calling it a fetus is the PC way of saying "We wont piss off NARAL".


Nowhere did it say anything about anyone giving birth to a fetus.

My ex miscarried a BABY, my BABY, at 3.5 months. Trust me, it was not a fetus.


Im sorry, I can't imagine what that must have been like to go through...I agree with you on the point that I personally would use the word "baby" regardless...I just think there's more than one way to read the headline you quoted...and the way I'm seeing it, I don't think the term fetus is misused.
on Aug 11, 2005

go to google news and search for the keyword phrase: panda baby dies in womb and you'll see the top (and possibly only publication) that appears is THE CONSERVATIVE VOICE

Baaaappp!  Sorry, that was an AP headline.  Care to surf over to them?

on Aug 11, 2005

outrageous huh? they used the word 'fetus' rather than baby three outta four times.

here's a clue. babies cry and breathe. fetuses don't

Here's a clue.  Babies are conceived, not Fetuses.  Now you have a clue.  use it.

on Aug 11, 2005

oops i guess you were wrong.

No, you are!  The fetus was re-absorbed?  Guess the Human Fetus was more developed than the Panda Fetus (as you just proved).  But one is called a baby, the other a 'fetus'. 

Why thank you kingbee for validating the whole article!

on Aug 11, 2005

and the way I'm seeing it, I don't think the term fetus is misused.

If you abort a baby, fetus is acceptable.  if a baby is born, why not call it a baby?  Afraid to?

on Aug 11, 2005
If you abort a baby, fetus is acceptable. if a baby is born, why not call it a baby? Afraid to?


Fetus was used in reference to the time 3 months ago when the baby needed more time to develop. The word fetus was used in reference to a time before the baby had been born.
on Aug 11, 2005
Babies are conceived, not Fetuses


a perfect example of abyssmal ignorance.

next you'll be telling me you can see little faces on sperm cells if you look at em thru a microscope.

conception is the process by which a sperm cell fertilizes an egg and and a zygote is formed. once the zygote attaches to the endometrium and cells begin to divide it becomes an embryo. eight weeks later the embryo becomes a fetus. every baby is a fetus til it's able to survive outside the womb.
on Aug 11, 2005
Why thank you kingbee for validating the whole article!


thank the conservative voice for gettin it wrong and you for carryin it to wild extremes.
on Aug 12, 2005

Fetus was used in reference to the time 3 months ago when the baby needed more time to develop. The word fetus was used in reference to a time before the baby had been born.

The baby had been born and they were still calling it a fetus.  Typical NARAL and MSM hypocrisy.  They cant even stand to admit that some people dont want to abort a BABY.

on Aug 12, 2005

a perfect example of abyssmal ignorance.

next you'll be telling me you can see little faces on sperm cells if you look at em thru a microscope.

Nice of you to avoid the issue again.  SO you have no children cause you only conceive fetuses.  No wonder you are sterile.

on Aug 12, 2005

thank the conservative voice for gettin it wrong and you for carryin it to wild extremes.

You are the one that wont look it up on the AP.  You can use whatever source you want. I quoted their headlines, not your source.  So why are you even using it?

on Aug 13, 2005
SO you have no children cause you only conceive fetuses. No wonder you are sterile.


good to know dr frist aint the only one who can diagnose atta distance.

i don't know where you got your medical degree...but they oughta be investigated.

all babies were once feti. all babies were conceived. therefore all feti were conceived.

unless, of course, you know somethin nobody else does.
on Aug 13, 2005
The baby had been born and they were still calling it a fetus. Typical NARAL and MSM hypocrisy. They cant even stand to admit that some people dont want to abort a BABY.


Let's say that it's five years down the road, and some newspaper is doing a follow up article. In the article, the sentence "the baby was born to a comatose mother" appears. Will you be calling the paper out for inaccurately referring to the now 5-year-old child as a baby?
on Aug 14, 2005

good to know dr frist aint the only one who can diagnose atta distance.

i don't know where you got your medical degree...but they oughta be investigated.

Never said I had a medical degree.  In fact if you read my blog regularly, you would know that I do not.

And I did not diagnose anything.  I merely extrapolated from the facts you presented.  You can refute the facts you presented, or you can affirm them.  That is your choice.

on Aug 14, 2005

Let's say that it's five years down the road, and some newspaper is doing a follow up article. In the article, the sentence "the baby was born to a comatose mother" appears. Will you be calling the paper out for inaccurately referring to the now 5-year-old child as a baby?

While as inaccurate as the headlines cited, it is much less of a controversy.  For it is still a life.  They just try to cheapen it by trying to call it a fetus, when in fact it was indeed and is a baby.  There is a time to drop your blinders even if you agree with pro choice.

Extremism never furthered a cause, it just placates the current believers.

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