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Published on June 23, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers, Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

Both quotes are from the same source.  A biased one at that, but even biased people can speak the truth.


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on Jun 23, 2005
Yes, but, as soon as it was dedicated and the crowd (what crowd there might be) cleared, it would be defaced with graffitti and vandalized.


Dont confuse the left with the right. The left would do that.

The right would just blow it up.
on Jun 23, 2005
Of course one of the best ways to study something is to dissect it...


I like your logic
on Jun 23, 2005
I think Senator Kerry is doing a pretty good job of going after Carl Rove on the Senate floor right now. Carl Rove must have forgotten that the country was united after 9/11. Sounds to me that Rove is using 9/11 to promote a political agenda--that to me, is quite disgusting.

I find Rove's statements to be irresponsible and immature.


Edited: And Tim Johnson is making an excellent point as I type this--the men and women in Iraq who are fighting for our country, are both registered Democrats and Republicans. They are working together. Rove's statements are a slap in the face to the members of the military who are registered democrats.
on Jun 23, 2005
are both registered Democrats and Republicans. They are working together.


Can I ask just what the hell good it would do for them to work against each other? Exactly what choice do they have? They're kind of in a position where they have to work together or be killed. That's not a solid point for your argument.
on Jun 23, 2005
Can I ask just what the hell good it would do for them to work against each other? Exactly what choice do they have? They're kind of in a position where they have to work together or be killed. That's not a solid point for your argument.


The point being made is that if they can work together for the good of the country, that politicians and their advisors should be able to as well. Rove's comments do nothing more than divide an already polarized nation.
on Jun 23, 2005
Rove's comments do nothing more than divide an already polarized nation.


I agree, but he is just one man with his views. Not everyone, you for example, agrees with him.
on Jun 23, 2005
I agree, but he is just one man with his views. Not everyone, you for example, agrees with him


No, but I do find it hypocritical that we are all ready to slay any Democrat who insults the troops, but when it is done by a republican political advisor it is fine.
on Jun 23, 2005

I think Senator Kerry is doing a pretty good job of going after Carl Rove on the Senate floor right now. Carl Rove must have forgotten that the country was united after 9/11. Sounds to me that Rove is using 9/11 to promote a political agenda--that to me, is quite disgusting.

I find Rove's statements to be irresponsible and immature.


Edited: And Tim Johnson is making an excellent point as I type this--the men and women in Iraq who are fighting for our country, are both registered Democrats and Republicans. They are working together. Rove's statements are a slap in the face to the members of the military who are registered democrats.

And I would support them, once they demand that Durbin, Dean, Kerry, Kennedy, Ried, Pelosi, Clinton and Biden retract their more inflamatory remarks.

Why is it the left applauds when their own make inflammatory remarks and calls the SOLDIERS Nazis and Communists, and yet when the right says they are pacifist, they go bonkers?

Tim Johnson just signed his retirement papers.

on Jun 23, 2005

Can I ask just what the hell good it would do for them to work against each other? Exactly what choice do they have? They're kind of in a position where they have to work together or be killed. That's not a solid point for your argument.

But it is a lesson for the democrat leadership.  One they pathetically cannot learn.

on Jun 23, 2005

The point being made is that if they can work together for the good of the country, that politicians and their advisors should be able to as well. Rove's comments do nothing more than divide an already polarized nation.

Why do Rove's comments, that only talk about a concept, not a people, divide it more than Deans et. al. when they actually name names?

Before you can be taken with substance, it would be best for you to get your own (democrat) house in order.  Rove's comments are tame in comparison to the ones recently made my Dean Durbin and Biden, and nothing compared to what the rest of the democrat leadership has said over the last 5 years.

You want to convery anyone?  Start condemning the left when they go off the reservation. 

I missed your article condemning Durbin.  Sorry. I will try to find it.

on Jun 23, 2005

No, but I do find it hypocritical that we are all ready to slay any Democrat who insults the troops, but when it is done by a republican political advisor it is fine.

All?  Please list the democrats that condemned Durbin's speech?  I will help you.  Dailey. 

Oops!  Small list.  Get your own house in order before demanding the same from the right.  The left has been at it for 5 years.  One peep out of the right, and all of a sudden we are the ones doing hate speech?

Not hardly.  Seems the democrats can dish it out, but sure cant take it.  Rove just got tired of democrats getting a free ride and so said some mild (yes mild! No unpatriotic, no nazi, no pol pot, no racists sexists bigots) criticism.  And if you read it with an open mind, you have to agree that the left LEADERSHIP (read: not all liberals) are very guilty of that exact thing.

on Jun 23, 2005
Dr. Guy--I think you just went a little over the edge. I'm a liberal, not necessarily a democrat--and I don't really care for anyone's polarizing comments.

That said, you are right, I didn't write an article about Durbin--you've read the last article I wrote. I'm going to go back to being happy and ignore these political articles. I'm tired of hearing about what a bad American I am for holding opposing political views.
on Jun 23, 2005
Is it Kerry's job to "go after" Rove? I wonder if his constituant could offer a million other things he could be doing for them instead of playing Washington D.C. soap-opera games...
on Jun 24, 2005

Is it Kerry's job to "go after" Rove? I wonder if his constituant could offer a million other things he could be doing for them instead of playing Washington D.C. soap-opera games...

No one is asking anyone to 'go after' anyone.  But to defend and support the outrageous statements the left makes, and then to feign outrage over what a conservative says is clearly hypocrisy.  Is it their job to be so hypocritical?

on Jun 24, 2005

I'm tired of hearing about what a bad American I am for holding opposing political views.

I don't recall anyone calling you a bad American. Indeed, Moderateman praised you on his threads for your demeanor and decorum, as I have in the past.  And will do so now.  You are always polite and post well reasoned responses, that allow for spirited and polite debate.

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