Byrd, A Bigot for all Seasons

What the Democrat Leadership has become

Published on March 3, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

In yet another example how the democrat leadership has abandoned all pretense of working with the majority party, Robert 'Grand Kleagle' Byrd has compared them, on the open Senate floor, to Hitler and the Nazis.

While this has been going on by the loony loopy luddite left since 2000, most of the true liberals and rational ones have avoided it. And altho the leadership has said some heinous things about the right, they have refrained from wallowing in the slime of their LLL compatriots, altho they never did repudiate it.

No More. Now it is open warfare on the right where any slurs and epithets go. They need not bear any passing or remote resemblance to the truth, they just have to be outrageous and bigotted.

But in that, they are finally starting to cause the true liberals and the rational memebers of their party to draw back in disgust and horror. It is not only the Right calling for a repudiation of KKK Byrd's bigotted statements, but now some Jewish groups as well (altho the NJDC is not one of them - still being a toady to their masters).

This latest vitriol does not suprise me in the least. Nor does the silence of the majority of the Liberal elite leadership. But I do feel sad for many of the true liberals out there who look for some leadership and instead only find filth and hatred. I know they must be cringing at this kind of garbage, and yet they have no where to go.

It is sad when the party you thought you believed in betrays the very core of your beliefs and betrays their constituency. It is sadder when the idiots cannot see they are being used as dupes and slaves to the new slave masters of the 21st century. They are not liberals. They are jokes.

Comments

ParaTed2k

on Mar 03, 2005

How do you get a liberal to forgive a man for lynching, harrassing and hating Black people?

Tell them he is "pro choice".

Dr Guy

on Mar 03, 2005

Tell them he is "pro choice".

Yea, but his 'choice' should be an anethma to any sane person.

Moderateman

on Mar 03, 2005

ah doc I see ya got vitriol into you post but left out byrds ad homimin attack, filled with hyperbole. We must learn to use the lefts 3 favorite words when posting, vitrolic ad hominim and hyperbole as much as possible.

Maybe the liberals {true ones} not he crazies will pull back from some of this vile behavior and start to see what the far far far left is doing to their Once Great Party.

Dr Guy

on Mar 03, 2005

Maybe the liberals {true ones} not he crazies will pull back from some of this vile behavior and start to see what the far far far left is doing to their Once Great Party.

I think many true liberals already are. I dont see the leadership drawing back tho. It is kind of like the David Duke thing. No Republicans support or encourage him, and all regularly denounce him. There is loonies on both sides. At least the conservatives shun theirs. But the Liberal leadership seems to be embracing theirs.

Larry Kuperman

on Mar 03, 2005

Hi, Dr. Guy. I saw the CNN article this morning. I am NOT a defender of Senator Byrd's and I certainly do recall that he was a KKK member, but in this particular instance, I think CNN was exaggerating the importance of his remarks. His remarks (as quoted in the CNN article, I may only have part of the story) were not inflammatory nor inappropriate, at least in my opinion.

Let me quote everything that CNN reported, judge for yourself:
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"We, unlike Nazi Germany or Mussolini's Italy, have never stopped being a nation of laws, not of men," Byrd said. "But witness how men with motives and a majority can manipulate law to cruel and unjust ends."

Byrd then quoted historian Alan Bullock, saying Hitler "turned the law inside out and made illegality legal."
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The issue under debate in the Senate was a Republican plan to change the rules of filibustering that the Democrats are using to block ten of President Bush's judicial nominees. Filibustering has long been a part of the process (I'm not saying a GOOD part, mind you, just that it isn't a recent innovation) and allows a minority to delay or send back to committee a proposal that has the support of a majority, but not an overwhelming majority of Senators. A filibuster can be stopped if 60 Senators vote to do so. Byrd was defending a long-standing part of the process and is, if anything, only guilty of hyperbole.

The CNN headline would lead a casual reader to think that Byrd said something much different, much worse. I personally wouldn't have used the "Nazi Germany or Mussolini" analogy as Senator Byrd did, but if I were an editor at CNN, I wouldn't have the article the title "Byrd spokesman defends senator's Hitler remarks."

Must have been a slow news day at CNN.

Myrrander

on Mar 03, 2005

Byrd really bothers me. I mean he really, really, really bothers me. That this guy keeps getting associated with the left makes me really sad. I don't want you folks on the right to have to deal with him either, though -- the guy should be put in an "old ideologies home" or something.

Cheers.

Moderateman

on Mar 03, 2005

hey lets start a rumor that byrds great great great grand mother was a black woman. that would run byrd peeping and chirping into the night.. lololo

Dr Guy

on Mar 03, 2005

Filibustering has long been a part of the process (I'm not saying a GOOD part, mind you, just that it isn't a recent innovation)

Filibustering has never been used for a function (such as judicial nominations) expressly enumerated in the Constitution.

Also, he compared the Repbulican plan to allow Judicial nominations a simple majority (as defined by the constitution) vote to Hitler's rewriting of the laws of Germany to give himself more power. While the comparison is vile and abusive, it is also plain wrong. The tact that the Republicans are following is not giving any more power to themselves than they already have according to the constitution. Period.

Dr Guy

on Mar 03, 2005

editor at CNN, I wouldn't have the article the title "Byrd spokesman defends senator's Hitler remarks."

How about Jewish Groups Blast Byrd's Nazi Remarks? That was Fox. It appears that CNN just watered down the true remarks. The 'Jewish' groups did not get their info from CNN.

Island Dog

on Mar 04, 2005

Can you just imagine if a Republican made a comment like this. The media would have non-stop coverage of it, but since he's a liberal democrat, he gets a pass.

Dynosoar

on Mar 04, 2005

( Message to Senator Byrd )

Miss you dearly, hope to see you soon, we have a room here waiting for you, thanks for keeping our flame burning

Signed,

Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, George McGovern, et al

Dr Guy

on Mar 04, 2005

Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, George McGovern, et al

I would not put George McGovern in that list. He was just a whacko, but an honest and sincere one.

Larry Kuperman

on Mar 04, 2005

"How about Jewish Groups Blast Byrd's Nazi Remarks?" Yeah, I saw that as well. I think that THEY were over-reacting, but you are right. CNN and Fox only reported the reactions from a number of groups. Point well taken. What we had was a former KKK member "playing the Nazi card." Talk about hypocrasy.

"I would not put George McGovern in that list. He was just a whacko, but an honest and sincere one." Once again, I agree with you. George was a well-meaning but incompetent politician (remember the Thomas Eagleton affair?) but not a racist.

dean4us

on Mar 10, 2005

Why does this statement make Byrd a bigot? He was not refering to the racism of Nazism, but how authoritarians have taken power in the past. History should be looked back upon to make sure mistakes aren't made again. Byrd was looking back at how dictators took power in hopes it could be prevented. When the Constituion was written, people like Madison wanted to make sure that there was a seperation of power and that the majority was thwarted, otherwise, potentially devastating bills could be shoved right through Congress and the White House without any check (remember checks and balances?) Republicans control both chambers, the White House, and the Supreme Court, something that would really scare Madison. There needs to be a check, and the last check left is fillibuster.

dean4us

on Mar 10, 2005

"Can you just imagine if a Republican made a comment like this. The media would have non-stop coverage of it, but since he's a liberal democrat, he gets a pass. "

No offense intended, but I think supporters of Republicans have become so used to using the phrase, "If Republicans had done... can you imagine what people would have said?" that they are using it when it doesn't apply.

Byrd's comments were not racist. And if I imagine a Republican saying this, I still see nothing wrong with it.

BILL FRIST: "We, unlike Nazi Germany or Mussolini's Italy, have never stopped being a nation of laws, not of men. But witness how men with motives and a majority can manipulate law to cruel and unjust ends."

All I see is just another senator speaking of the dangers of an unchecked majority. (Actually, because it's a Republican speaking against a Republican majority, it would cause a stir, but not for the reasons you mean.)

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