Any Doubt Christians

Are the only legally disciriminated against People?

Published on February 14, 2005 By Dr Guy In Current Events

There is a practice in many rural areas where by parents send their children, during the school day, to churches for religious education. This does not take away from the class time of the students, and it is not mandatory (I had a similar program when I was a child, and it was a Protestant class, and I am Catholic - but I did not mind).

But like all hate filled zealots that cannot allow people to believe or act differently than they, some transplanted NY Parents are threatening to sue to abolish this practice unless it is done away with.

Are their children forced to participate? No. Are their children stigmatized by not going? No, especially considering some native children do not go (nor was I for that matter). So what is the evil?

Nothing, except difference. And they cannot stand that. So they want to erradicate everything in the ice cream store except vanilla.

It must be very sad to be so miserable that you cannot allow others to live their lives. It must be sad that you cannot allow others to have their own beliefs, especially if they do not conform to yours.

But then that is what these parents and their ilk (Newdow comes to mind) have become. Small bitter pathetic excuses for people, whose only joy is in the misery of others.

Comments

BlueDev

on Feb 14, 2005

It just reeks of insecurity. From the very youngest age we were always told that bullies and those who tear others down do so because they are too insecure in themselves. This is no different.

If you aren't firm in your own beliefs, just tear down someone else's, right? Sounds like a smart plan to me.

bemenaker

on Feb 14, 2005

There are two problems that do exist with this program. One you are taking tax payers money and using it to bus kids to church for a religious education. That is government sponsored religion which is strictly forbidden by the Constitution. Yes it is a pretty trite thing in this instance, but what if there are 10 jews in your town, or 10 islamics? Now you are taking their money and you are spending it on sending your kid to a christian education. That is a complete violation of the Constitution. Like I said this is a minor thing, but it is important.

The other thing is, and especially in a small town like that, by opting out, your kid will be looked upon differently. I went to a small rural school, and I was raised by my parents outside of religion completely. That was a choice left for me to decide when I was old enough to actually understand what it meant. When I was in grade school, I did not dare say how I really felt on that subject, for I would be completely ridiculed and cast out from the other children if I had. Yes, I made that mistake, thankfully, at the time, most of the kids had too short of a memory to remember what I said for long.

If you want your kids to have a religious education, that is your responsibility, if you are taking away from the time of other kids that don't want to have any, than you are making the same discrimenation against them, that you are trying to claim now. Public schools serve to the public, not your special interest. This may not look like what is going on, because in your area, your belief is the common, but this is how our system is setup to look at it.

Dr Guy

on Feb 14, 2005

There are two problems that do exist with this program. One you are taking tax payers money and using it to bus kids to church for a religious education.

No, as the article clearly states, and the practise is, the churches are close by and the kids walk to them.

Dr Guy

on Feb 14, 2005

The other thing is, and especially in a small town like that, by opting out, your kid will be looked upon differently.

Wrong again. I was not looked at differently. Indeed since it is voluntary, some of the natives opt out of it.

But that is specious at best. In a small town, all you have to do is look around on a sunday to see which neighbors are not there. So does that mean all Jews, Catholics, etc are going to be looked at differently? Not usually, but it can happen. However that does not negate the fact that, by carrying your logic to the next step, we should ban all churches as they promote inclusion and therefore exclusion. So that if they are not of your faith, they are somehow deficient? SOme beleive that, but you cannot legislate that kind of thinking. The truth is the vast majority do not think that.

ParaTed2k

on Feb 14, 2005

It all goes to the homogenization of our society. Apparently the only way we are to become "equal" is to become all the same.

Conform, or be cast out.

BlueDev

on Feb 14, 2005

However that does not negate the fact that, by carrying your logic to the next step, we should ban all churches as they promote inclusion and therefore exclusion

I think we should ban all organizations or clubs of any sort. There are certainly some I can't be a part of and that just isn't fair.

We should all have to work for the same company as well. It really pisses me off that I can't work at the same place as everyone else.

messybuu

on Feb 14, 2005

One can say that people who are part of an orchestra or band or sports team are taking money from others who aren't part of an orchestra or band or sports.

The other thing is, and especially in a small town like that, by opting out, your kid will be looked upon differently.

People are looked upon differently for a variety of reasons, from race to physical appearance to clothing to wealth to tastes in music.

When I was in grade school, I did not dare say how I really felt on that subject, for I would be completely ridiculed and cast out from the other children if I had.

You know what's funny? In a few of my college courses, if I mentioned that I was a Republican, I would have definitely been separated from the rest of the class. Perhaps the solution is to disallow people to express their differences.

If you want your kids to have a religious education, that is your responsibility, if you are taking away from the time of other kids that don't want to have any, than you are making the same discrimenation against them, that you are trying to claim now.

Nobody's taking time away from the other children though. If this counts as taking time away, then surely any program in which children are sometimes out of class (i.e. student government, being part of a play, etc.) is taking time from other children, and should be abolished.

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