CLinton, A Hero?

How many rapist do you love?

Published on January 27, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

So many young people and other liberals look at Clinton as the Icon, the Big daddy. Mr, can do no wrong (forgetting he is the only elected president to ever get impeached for lying under oath). But lest we forget, his finer moments on the stage of criminal or at least predatory behaviour:

Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned

Ah, but everyone makes mistakes, right? But 20 of them and counting? Now some may discount this list, for it is only their word against his, a convicted liar. But one against 20? HOw about just rumors?

Marilyn Jo Jenkins - rumored
Susan Coleman - rumored (suicide 7.5 months pregnant)
Robyn Dickey -rumored, staffer
Lenora Steinkamp - rumored - mystery jogger on video tape entering the "infamous hallway" with Clinton
Kimba Wood - rumored, judge
Kelley Craighead - rumored, staffer to Bill and Hillary
Sharline Wilson - rumored, claimed drug association
Dee Dee Myers - rumored, staffer
Suzie Whitacre - rumored
Catherine Cornelius - rumored, "distant cousin".
Cheryl Mills - rumored, WH attorney
Current Secret Paramour (per Tripp/King interview) - rumored

Where there is smoke there is fire. After all, if you had a convicted serial rapist living in your neighborhood, would he not be the first to suspect when another rape occurred? (Put your hand down Hillary).

Hero? Hero? if the man was not such a slick talker, he would be serving a life sentence as all rapist do.

And you call him a hero? You poor misguided pathetic fool.

Comments (Page 4)

drmiler

on Jan 27, 2005

Reply #45 By: Myrrander - 1/27/2005 3:54:24 PM
lol

What about the sworn testimony I mentioned?

I can find instances for every single one of these women.

You support lies when they fit your paradigm of the world. This is why you are part of the the rabid, rancorous, retard right.

And you belong to the idiotic left! He never said he supported squat! He offered his links as ALLEGATIONS!! I'm sure you know the difference. Don't you?

Moderateman

on Jan 27, 2005

nd you belong to the idiotic left! He never said he supported squat! He offered his links as ALLEGATIONS!! I'm sure you know the difference. Don't you?

breathe in and out.. cannot you see thats what the left does when they are losing a point, the accuse they disinfo ya to death and when all else fails they say "oh yeh, pick their ball up and go home"

Myrrander

on Jan 27, 2005

*smirk*

I've said nothing about disinformation. Just that actual information was being ignored. Take your beta blockers, kids.

drmiler

on Jan 27, 2005

Reply #48 By: Myrrander - 1/27/2005 9:39:00 PM
*smirk*

I've said nothing about disinformation. Just that actual information was being ignored. Take your beta blockers, kids.

As you ignored his links to the "allegations".

Solnac

on Jan 28, 2005

I used the links to show that the allegations are real, and not some part of the vast right wing conspiracy.

*eye roll* ...And you didn't even do that. I can allege you're an ass and get it published, doesn't mean it's true, but it is 'real', you're right about that. You also said that the list was 'documented to be correct' in your first reply. If something is alleged to be correct, it means you have proof of it's correctness, which means you've proved it, yes? You've checked these statements veracity, or made sure these journalists did?

All documented to be correct

--direct quote. if it's correct, it's proven. Since you brought it up, you must of correlated the facts and 'proved' it.

I dont wonder why you dont work with republicans (and for the umpteenth time, I am not one), as when you cannot even read simple english, how can you understand complex issues like running the country?

Nah, you just cheerlead for them. I can read simple English just fine, thank you. I'm not one who said it was 'documented to be correct' (and for something to be correct, you must have proof that it is, in fact so), and then blasted me for slander. Just because it came out of someone's mouth and someone wrote it down doesn't have proof of veracity.

The tone of your repsonse as of the other liberals indicates this hit too close to home. You know they are true, you just want 'plausible denialbility'. Sorry, if that is what you want, go find it in a whorehouse. You wont find it here.

So...I've heard conservatives protest the liberal assertation that the war was wrong a little loudly. So does that make that statement any more correct as well if you've proved the first? I'm sorry, the back and forthing is confusing.

Dr Guy

on Jan 28, 2005

You have a problem with your eyes? And your logic sucks. If you allege I am an ass, then it is true! The allegation,not the fact. The fact was that you are merely looking into a mirror. Did you flunk english in HS?

Dr Guy

on Jan 28, 2005

--direct quote. if it's correct, it's proven. Since you brought it up, you must of correlated the facts and 'proved' it.

Out of context, oh illogic one. The Allegations are not made up, but documented to have been made. I.e., these are real women and real charges. Try going back to grade school. Your logic really sucks.

Dr Guy

on Jan 28, 2005

No, I cheerlead for Conservatives. An alien concept to you to have a belief not tied to some clown? And you may be able to read english, but your comprehension sucks.

shadesofgrey

on Jan 28, 2005

You have a problem with your eyes? And your logic sucks. If you allege I am an ass, then it is true! The allegation,not the fact.

If the only thing it took for an allegation to be true is to have someone say it, then why do we have "false allegations?" I think your logic failed you here Dr. Guy. People use "allegations" to mean that it has not been confirmed (ie. "allegations of misconduct"--it doesn't mean it happened or didn't happen, just that someone has said it happened). If it is proven to be false it is then called a "false allegation" otherwise the "allegation is true."

You said that the allegations were correct--not that the allegations happened.

Two different things--now, what you intended, I don't know. But what you said, was that these assertions are, in fact, true.

Dr Guy

on Jan 28, 2005

False allegations are allegations that are not true. However they are still allegations. I posted Allegations, and backed them up with the source. While I believe most of them to be true (and some are known to be true), I never stated the allegations were true or false, just that they were in fact allegations made. I was accused of making them up, I was just sourcing to show that I made none of them up, and they are widely known and stand on their own merit.

If I did say "the allegations were correct", then I mispoke. But what I think I said was that the allegations were documented and therefore not made up by me.

on Jan 28, 2005

And your opinion is like your asshole. You have one, but it is as useful.

Not useful? Try not crapping for a while with waste fulling up.

I.e., these are real women and real charges.

Any famous people usually gets rape accusations from ladies who are seeking "compensations" for pain and suffering. The more famous and rich a male is, he gets more accusations of rape from those evil women trying to tap into that man's wealth.

Dr Guy

on Jan 28, 2005

Not useful? Try not crapping for a while with waste fulling up.

It is as useful! WHo said not? Read it again!

And as I said, 1or 2? Sure there is a lot of doubt. 20 or 30? Come on! and we know several to be true? Sure, and Scott Peterson is innocent as well! Riggghhhhtttt!

Where there is A LOT OF smoke there is fire. And when the forrest is burning down around you, dont you think it is a bit late to yell entrapment?

Solnac

on Jan 28, 2005

Where I got confused is where you replied to the following:

Most of this list (about 99.9%) is total crap. Not suprising from the right at all. It didn't stick when he was in office, and it won't stick now.

All documented to be correct

You do go on to bash the user and say he didn't know what he was talking about, or had a Clinton shrine in his back yard. (I'm paraphrasing with hyperbole here, so don't get the way you get when I 'misquote' you.) However, if a allegation is documented to be correct, it is assumed it is proven true. Thus, I assumed you knew something we didn't, or did some special research the journalists didn't to back up this assertation, or more likely, you were spewing stuff out of your mouth randomly. I stand by my previous statements otherwise, and my grasp of this language I'm typing in, which you, like an ass have maligned twice now without asking what I'm talking about.

However, I'm becoming more and more in agreement this statement minus the mirror part (hell, include it, I can be one):

If you allege I am an ass, then it is true![/quote[

If I was being an ass when I made that statement, it was in getting in touch with my liberal side, which sorta has a donkey that sometimes looks more like an ass. Anyhow, I feel you have the tendency towards humanity to act like an ass sometimes, yes, but who doesn't?

My second point in my statement seems to fall on deaf ears (or is it eyes?),I'll then be much more blunt: the media covers news stories. While, in fact these allegations happened and at the very least, Monica and Gennifer proved to be true in sexual misconduct, the media doesn't gather proof on veracity of allegations made. They write it down the fact that the allegation was made by so and so. Sometimes later the credibilty of the speaker is brought into doubt or documented to be false. (The first happened to the Swift Boat Veterans a little when they just signed peoples names to letters without asking permission.) Unless outside proof is produced or the other side of the allegation 'fesses up', both which happened in the Clinton case with Monica, the allegation is made, but not correct (documented to be thus or otherwise).

No, I cheerlead for Conservatives.

Most of which are Republican. Not all. My bad...you only dheerlead for a certain majority of Republicans. Is that a more correct allegation?

I find it fascinating that you keep talking about moral elitist liberals and you keep blasting me with the following statements:

Did you flunk english in HS?

Try going back to grade school. Your logic really sucks.

And you may be able to read english, but your comprehension sucks.

There is a saying that goes something like this, "You cannot like or hate something in someone unless it is something you like or hate in yourself." Would this be the case? To this, I only say, in a fit of adolesence, 'yo momma.'

I don't have any illusions Clinton slept around in office (all of them that he held). Power does that to people, and many presidents have been rumored or practically confirmed to do the same. However, as I've stated before, I think there was another way you could of gone with this that would of been both not founded on the allegations of the greedy (yes, Monica did get something out of this, Dr. Guy, hold no illusions, even though she was correct) that not even an independant counsel verified to be correct. Or that you could of used what was proven correct as the centerpiece, and the fact the man lied to be a bad example to us and our children. Instead, you took a completely different tact that seemed to delibrately spit in our face, and one that we've frankly heard before. I think I've explained myself adqueately enough.

Is Clinton my personal hero? No, but he is a damn good politican.

drmiler

on Jan 31, 2005

No, but he is a damn good politican.

Which means exactly what?

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on Jan 31, 2005

Lets through out this sex bull shit and focus on what he did to help america, anything? most think he helped the economy, nope, from what i learned in economics etc... he did very little to help, the economy naturally balanced out, [called a bussiness cycle; recession-->Depression-->Expansion-->(etc...) ] take a look, i am not taking sides to let you guys know.

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