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Published on October 17, 2006 By Dr Guy In Current Events

While the UN postures and compromises, and half of Asia worries and frets, Kim Jung Mentally Il acts like a spoiled child.  Barucka Saults.  "I want it now Daddy!".  Every move made by any nation, to bluster (for that is all anyone is really doing), stamp their feet, threaten to take their marbles and go home, is met by Kim's loud cry that "It is an Act of War!".  When in reality, if we were to engage in act of war, there would be a glass parking lot between Seoul and Beijing.

I have seen some people asking "Why?".  Why cant we let other nations have "the bomb".  I merely point to Kim Jung Mentally Il's temper tantrum and ask "Would you give a loaded gun to a 6 year old?".  For that is what he is acting like.  A petulant child that cannot stand to play by the rules of the game if that means he does not win all the time.

Kim's father was one of the worst despots of any modern nation.  His son is following in his footsteps.  However the father earned his leadership - ruthlessly, but he earned it.  Mentally Il never earned a thing in his life, and has gotten his way by throwing tantrums.  And he is showing no signs of maturity.

A debate rages now on whether this is Bush's Fault or Clinton's fault.  In the end, it does not matter.  For you cannot negotiate with a 6 year old.  You have to lay down the law, and then punish them should they break the rules.  No one is punishing Mentally Il.  So the "negotiations" that Clinton tried were doomed to failure.  The Bush policy of multilateral talks has gone no where.  Both for the same reason.  You cannot negotiate with a 6 year old child.

The sad and scary part is the the UN still has not realized that, nor has China.  And when this child decides to start flailing his fists at all who are near him, as he surely will, the ones to suffer are not going to be the US.  No, South Korea, Japan, and China are going to get stung by his puny little fists. The former 2 are innocent of the tantrum to come. 

China has no one but themselves to blame for it. But it is their people who will pay for their leadership's arrogance and duplicity.  But that has never seemed to cause insomnia in a communist country.


Comments
on Oct 17, 2006
man are you right about this, it really does not matter who is to blame for giving this dangerous child a gun, the only thing that matters is, he has a gun and someone needs to take it away from him.
on Oct 17, 2006
Good article Doc. Yes, Kim Jung IL is acting like a 6 year old and I suspect he thought he would get more backing from "Mother China".

Mother China, however, is rapidly becoming a Super Power and I suspect that they are finding the little "brat" tiresome. However, as has been reported, China is worried about a collapse of the North Korean regime because the threat of thousands of refugees pouring into China is unwelcome. Like Ceaucescu's Rumania I predict the that the alienated North Korea will not hold out for much longer. Oh how I wish Zimbabwe, another polecat state, had some pressure put on them.
on Oct 17, 2006

the only thing that matters is, he has a gun and someone needs to take it away from him.

Yep!  Very well summed up MM!

on Oct 17, 2006

Mother China, however, is rapidly becoming a Super Power and I suspect that they are finding the little "brat" tiresome. However, as has been reported, China is worried about a collapse of the North Korean regime because the threat of thousands of refugees pouring into China is unwelcome. Like Ceaucescu's Rumania I predict the that the alienated North Korea will not hold out for much longer. Oh how I wish Zimbabwe, another polecat state, had some pressure put on them.

Good point.  But I think their fear is irrelevant.  It will colapse.  It is only a matter of time, so like the saying goes "pay me now, or pay me later".  Later, the price may be a lot higher.

As for Zimbabwe, I am afraid that I only see a desent into a civil war before things can get better.  And then only if the OAS steps in and stablizes it.  As long as Mugabe lives, their lot will only get worse.

on Oct 17, 2006
Good article Doc. It seems that when the UN gets involved - back in the late 40's and early 50's, as well as now - the situation gets worse. Is UN the initials for Utter Nonsense?
on Oct 17, 2006
I know the following statement is probably going to earn me some flack but I like the idea of the UN. I like the idea of a host of nations using economic sanctions to disable depots, rather than using tanks, guns or bombs. Don't mistake me, though, a mental midget like Kim would only delight in having an excuse to throw his puny weight around and the first to suffer will be innocents in both South Korea and Japan. Economic sanctions means nothing to him except an excuse to behave even more badly.

The people who will suffer from economic sanctions the most are those who deserve it the least i.e. innocent civilians.
on Oct 17, 2006
First, I think it is naive to think of this in terms of lil Kim. Anyone who looks at that child has to know down deep that he isn't the leader of that country. He's a figurehead that probably has the power of 'face', but I don't believe for a second that there aren't interest who really decide what Korea is going to do and at least manipulate him into doing it. More likely he's just a self-deluded puppet.

Second, you have to understand that WHOEVER is in charge is at this point in time fighting for their lives. This isn't just ego for them. There's no turning back from the kind of brainwashing they've been dishing out for 50 years. If their nation crumbles and NORTH KOREANS wake up to find themselves duped, it will make the French Revolution look like Disneyland.

That makes it a very, very, very dangerous situation. There's no way anyone can invade Korea. Period. It would be like Iraq where everyone from 8 to 80 is an insurgent. Conventional bombardment would cost, literally, millions of civilian lives.

So, what do you do? We can't be like the Dems who after we invaded Iraq demanded to know why we weren't militarily engaging NK. We can't believe for a moment that the modern world could stomach what would be *necessary* to defeat lil Kim's regime.

So, then... what? The only possible option I can really see is a cold war scenario. They are starving, and their choice is either bait a war that will destroy them all, starve, or start making concessions. Right now they are walking a tightrope.

Whether they screw up and cause a bloodbath is honestly just up to chance now. I hate to seem all bleeding heart about it, but this might be one circumstance where the UN standard procedure is called for. Maybe the best thing to do, as with Russia, is wait for enough old school communists there to die and hope the next bunch is better.
on Oct 18, 2006

Is UN the initials for Utter Nonsense?

Among other things.

on Oct 18, 2006

Economic sanctions means nothing to him except an excuse to behave even more badly.

The people who will suffer from economic sanctions the most are those who deserve it the least i.e. innocent civilians.

I could very well have added the UN to Clinton and Bush not being able to do anything.  I have a lot of problems with the UN, but in cases like this, even the best Organization could not stop a two-bit despot like Kim.  And yes, the ones to shoulder the burden of his petulance will be the innocents.

on Oct 18, 2006
You have described him well Doc and yes it would be like giving him a loaded gun. I understand the logic now.
on Oct 18, 2006

First, I think it is naive to think of this in terms of lil Kim. Anyone who looks at that child has to know down deep that he isn't the leader of that country. He's a figurehead that probably has the power of 'face', but I don't believe for a second that there aren't interest who really decide what Korea is going to do and at least manipulate him into doing it. More likely he's just a self-deluded puppet.

I disagree.  I doubt Uday or Qusay would have been puppets had they ascended in Iraq.  The Kims have absolute control, and it is their say that leads the nation.  Yes, it is just my opinion, but that is about any of us have on the internal workings of NK at this point.

I find the rest of your analysis to be fairly on point.  And is the reason this is not a slam against the UN.  They are still myopic in thinking that diplomacy will work, but in their faults, they find at least the bud of the true action.  Isolation.  They cant do anything because of the factions and inertia, so they do nothing.  And in that, it is probably the right thing to do.  NK will collapse in time.  How much time is another issue, and while the world waits, the child becomes more petulant.  Except now, he has bigger rocks to throw at his perceived antagonists.