Doc you lost me - totally bamboozled!   

For all we know it could have taken 1 million years for that galaxy to get where it is... And when dealing with a number of that size, that's not really that big of a number to be off by...

Though, I blame Bush. *laughs*

How can the big bang be abot 15 billion years ago, yet we are seeing the light from a galaxy 13.66 billion light years from here?  Unless we were blown so far so fast as to defy every law of physics that is known today?

If we are seeing the light of a galaxy that is 13.66 billion years old, then shouldn't we compensate for the time it would take for us to get 13.66 billion light years apart?  so instead of being 15 billion light years old, would that not make us a lot older as mass does not travel at the speed of light?

For all we know it could have taken 1 million years for that galaxy to get where it is... And when dealing with a number of that size, that's not really that big of a number to be off by...

Ok, but if it took us a million years to get this far, that means we are moving at 1000 times the speed of light!  or more.  A million years would put us 2 million light years from the farthest object.  An object 13 billion light years from us, travelling at the speed of light, would take 6.5 billion years. Yet they are saying this galaxy was less than a billion years old when we saw the light.  I may not be a math genius, but that does not compute.

Though, I blame Bush. *laughs*

Sorry, forgot to add that!  Thanks for the addition!

Ok think of it this way, this is a possible 'theory'...

We are traveling one way, at just under the speed of light. Galaxy B is moving away from us at the same speed. After lets say (since I don't know the scientific story) the image we are now see'ing is spit out at 800,000,000 years... We're already a LONG LONG distance apart, and since we might be moving away from that galaxy at a speed just under light, it could possibly take it 12.6 or so billion more years to reach us.

That make any sense? I know it's just a wild theory of mine...

And sorry for no Math used.. but I'm not much up to taking the time to figure it out exactly... LoL

so far so fast as to defy every law of physics that is known today?

You presume that those laws were in effect at that time. Yes, as we comprehend space, it seems almost impossible, but if we accept the boig bang happened, and the universe expanded quickly due to an inconceivable force, it's possible that force discharved objects at differing sppeed.

Also, in that time instance, the universe expanded.

The question is, what did it expand into? What if it expanded into something that, by its density or energy, the laws we operate with were changed.

IG

That's what happens when scientists go from stating observable facts to stating opinions. They usually wind up sticking their Hush Puppies in their mouths.

Ok, so it's 13.66 billion light years from us. That naturally means that the light we can observe now took 13.66 billion years to reach us (not factoring in any gravitational affects on the light).

So, exactly how long has this galaxy been visible from Earth? 1 day? 1 Year? 1,000 years? 1 million years? 10 billion years? More? Just because they have just recently had the equipment to see it doesn't mean that it's light just suddenly started arriving here and may have been doing so for a billion years or more.

I think it's pretty amusing when they start stating the age of the universe as a certainty since the truth is they don't have a clue. Just some educated guesses and theories, none of which are certain at all.

There are a great many holes in the Big bang theory that have yet to be explained (which most honest scientists readily admit). Far too many for them to state the theory as a fact or the age as a certainty.

They really would do themselves a great deal of favor in the credibility department if they would simply stick to the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

That make any sense? I know it's just a wild theory of mine...

No, as it still defies the time line.  Even at that, we would only be about 1.6 billion (not 10 times that) light years away.

Your assuming we stop instantly the second that image was sent.. I'm saying we could have continued to be moving away from each other at the same speeds this entire time....

Lets assume we're moving 99.999% the speed of light. That means the image only gains .001% at a time (rating of an hour I'd assume) so then you have to figure out how much time it would take to travel those 800,000,000 years worth of miles seperating the two planets....

You presume that those laws were in effect at that time

Well, we can imagine, but those are the only laws I know.

They really would do themselves a great deal of favor in the credibility department if they would simply stick to the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

I wonder if they dumb them down for us or something.  I cant believe they are that myopic.

Lets assume we're moving 99.999% the speed of light. That means the image only gains .001% at a time (rating of an hour I'd assume) so then you have to figure out how much time it would take to travel those 800,000,000 years worth of miles seperating the two planets....

And you are a swabby?  Ok, that is the best I have heard yet.

Well.. I joined the Navy only because of shitty job luck back at home... I have a 1520 SAT and a 98 ASVAB Score... LoL And Math is my Forte... Literary skills are my weakness =/

Well.. I joined the Navy only because of shitty job luck back at home... I have a 1520 SAT and a 98 ASVAB Score... LoL And Math is my Forte... Literary skills are my weakness =/

Use the GI Bill!  YOu are good!  And that is out of 1600, not 2400.