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Published on August 15, 2006 By Dr Guy In Politics

Lanny Davis, a minion of Clinton (hint for the left, minion is not a derogatory term), finally realized that there is hate, bigotry and racism on the left.  It took the primary of Lieberman to bring it out, but he finally saw what the other 75% of the nation has seen all too clearly for far too long.

Not only is hate, birgotry, racism not the sole purview of the right, but indeed, the right is repudiating it, and the left is embracing it!  Yes, some on the extreme right are aryan nation clones!  But then, for the perhaps, first time, we hear a left saying the same of their own.  ANd it is no surprise to the rest of us.  We see it every day, in the racism when a black conservative runs, we see it when a conservative appeals to minorities.  We saw it in congress when the democrats decided that they could not let an Hispanic on the Appeals court level!

Yet the democrats did not see it.  For they are really blinded by rightiousness.  Their own.  One worse than any that the far right can dream up.

It took Lanny Davis to see if up front and personal to finally acknowledge it.  The sad fact is that neither the senders of the hate, or Lamont has seen it yet.  They still wallow in the misconception that they are holier than thou.

When in reality they are dirtier than dirt. 

This blog will not change a single mind.  The far left will dismiss it as sour grapes, and the rest of the nation will see it for what it is, and why they fear the loony left.  Napolean and Snowball are alive and well in Mickey and George.


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on Aug 15, 2006
Absolutely true. The left has long since been blind to their own bigotry and racism, and just as long (or so it seems) been ignorant to the classism and economic warfare that their side has used for so long. As long as the proposed ends justify the means they just don't care, unless of course it seems to directly impact one of their own.

I'm glad that Lanny Davis got the personal education here, but sadly most of the rest of the party continues to believe that the ends will justify their means as they push Joe Lieberman aside and try to put in another rabid ultraliberal.
on Aug 15, 2006
Wow!

You mean there are anonymous people on the internet that are haters and bigots? People who frequent liberal blog sites?

I don't know anyone who is deluded enough to think there aren't whack jobs on both ends of the political spectrum. We've all seen it, even right here on JU. I've seen more hateful things than what he listed as examples coming from both sides of the aisle.

I respect Lanny Davis, but for him to be appalled and feel threatened by someone who writes in CAPS, is a joke.
on Aug 15, 2006
the other 75% of the nation has seen all too clearly for far too long.



apparently they kept their eyes open for too long and what they saw blinded them so badly 1/3 of that number can't find their way to a voting booth.

or, perhaps you were so caught up in the drama of trying to make a lot outta hardly nothing (compared, say, to the vitriolic hatred and disgusting ugliness pitched at mccain by members of his party in 2000) and the delusional grandeur of pronouncing who 'gets' what, you appointed yourself spokesperson for 24% of the populace based on your presumption they must think the same way you do cuz how could they not? any rightthinking american with any sense...ooops.
on Aug 16, 2006

I'm glad that Lanny Davis got the personal education here, but sadly most of the rest of the party continues to believe that the ends will justify their means as they push Joe Lieberman aside and try to put in another rabid ultraliberal.

As the Lieberman scenario plays itself out more and more, the non-rabid ones on the left are going to see more and more of it.  Maybe that will finally wake them up and push them to take back their party from the kooks.

on Aug 16, 2006

I don't know anyone who is deluded enough to think there aren't whack jobs on both ends of the political spectrum.

Apparently you dont know Lanny Davis then.  Or at least not before his epiphany.

on Aug 16, 2006

or, perhaps you were so caught up in the drama of trying to make a lot outta hardly nothing (compared, say, to the vitriolic hatred and disgusting ugliness pitched at mccain by members of his party in 2000) and the delusional grandeur of pronouncing who 'gets' what, you appointed yourself spokesperson for 24% of the populace based on your presumption they must think the same way you do cuz how could they not? any rightthinking american with any sense...ooops.

Or perhaps you just ranted about a topic not on this blog, and one that hits too close to home for you?  This is about Lanny finally getting it, not that they do not exist on both ends of the spectrum.

But then my summary statement seems to apply to you in this case, and I can only say that I am disappointed with your unwillingness to confront the hatred and instead point fingers in other directions. There are a lot of places to point those fingers, and no where in here did I deny that.  But you appear to be in denial, and determined to ignore the ugly truth.

on Aug 16, 2006
perhaps you just ranted about a topic not on this blog


it's only on this blog i've seen anyone claim a 75% national consensus about anything related to either party. am i correct recalling you claim to be a university-trained statistician? if so, please provide supporting data.

frankly, i strongly suspect you extracted that figure from your lower digestive tract.
on Aug 16, 2006
frankly, i strongly suspect you extracted that figure from your lower digestive tract.


Looks as if King is calling you out Doc...

I have to go along with Davad on this one. Both parties have some form of "institutionalized" racism dwelling within them. But you cant say that it's the parties themselves. Racism dwells within the heart of the individual, not the heart of the political body.

The trick is to root it out wherever it exists.
on Aug 16, 2006
I think it's wrong to chalk the DNC's problems up to "racism", per se. Mark this up as the rare day when I agree with both davad AND thatoneguy. The DNC's problems are far more complex, and unless the party realizes that, it will be hard to plug the leaks.

The problem with the DNC is in part because we are a divided NATION, and that is bound to be reflected in ANY national party. The values of San Francisco, LA, and New York are decidedly different than the values of Topeka, Kansas, or Springfield, Missouri. And, frankly, if our government was operating properly, that wouldn't matter, because most of the concerns dividing the party would not be FEDERAL concerns, but instead, state and local concerns.

The fact that the DNC is falling under the control of the extremists and expelling moderates makes me uncomfortable, to say the least. But it's a problem too complex to explain with one or two reasons.
on Aug 16, 2006
The problem with the DNC is in part because we are a divided NATION, and that is bound to be reflected in ANY national party. The values of San Francisco, LA, and New York are decidedly different than the values of Topeka, Kansas, or Springfield, Missouri. And, frankly, if our government was operating properly, that wouldn't matter, because most of the concerns dividing the party would not be FEDERAL concerns, but instead, state and local concerns.

The fact that the DNC is falling under the control of the extremists and expelling moderates makes me uncomfortable, to say the least. But it's a problem too complex to explain with one or two reasons.


Well put. The same could be said about the GOP as well. This is what troubles me.
on Aug 16, 2006

it's only on this blog i've seen anyone claim a 75% national consensus about anything related to either party. am i correct recalling you claim to be a university-trained statistician? if so, please provide supporting data.

I did not claim a consensus.  If you actually read the article, you would see that I said they saw something that apparently those on the extreme hate filled bigoted racist left (and right, but this is about the former) do not.

Would you be happier with 73%?

on Aug 16, 2006

I have to go along with Davad on this one. Both parties have some form of "institutionalized" racism dwelling within them. But you cant say that it's the parties themselves. Racism dwells within the heart of the individual, not the heart of the political body.

This article does not deny that, nor even imply that it does not exist on both sides.  This is about a leftist finally ACKNOWLEDGING that yes, it exists on the left as well as on the right.

on Aug 16, 2006

I think it's wrong to chalk the DNC's problems up to "racism", per se. Mark this up as the rare day when I agree with both davad AND thatoneguy. The DNC's problems are far more complex, and unless the party realizes that, it will be hard to plug the leaks.

If I gave the impression that the ills of the DNC were because of racism, then I sent the wrong message.  This is not that.  This is about someone on the left finally acknowledging  that it exists on the left, and because of their attitude (very well expressed by Lanny), they refuse to see it.  Until it jumps up and bites them.

on Aug 16, 2006

Well put. The same could be said about the GOP as well. This is what troubles me.

And indeed I did make reference to it on the right, but whiel the refusal of the left to even admit it exists tends to let it fester out of control (not all the left, and that was never stated here or by Lanny).  While the racism and bigotry on the right are confronted almost daily, and that is the difference.  Not that it does not exist on both ends of the spectrum.

on Aug 16, 2006
This is about a leftist finally ACKNOWLEDGING that yes, it exists on the left as well as on the right.


If you look at his examples, Davis is talking about extreme loonies on the left. Who has ever denied that there are loons on the left? It's common knowledge that there are loons on both sides of the fence. Therefore why are you painting this as an "epiphany"?

If Davis wasn't aware that there are extremists on the left, then he's horribly out of touch and quite naive.
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