Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.
Published on June 3, 2006 By Dr Guy In International

Before today, I would have said nothing.  They already allow gay marriages, and civil unions among triples (soon to be higher I am sure).  They have the most liberal drug laws, and open prostitution.  Want a hit man?  Toke up at the bar!

In essence, they are the modern day version of Sodom and Gomorrah.  And for the record, the longest friend of the US in the world, bar none.

So what could possibly shock these freedom loving, hedonistic, American friends?

Try the latest attempts by their version of NAMBLA!  Yes, free love is all and good in Holland - Between consenting adults!

But now their version of NAMBLA is trying to get a political party together for the explicit purpose of lowering the age of consent to 12.  And the Dutch are rightly and justly sickened by it!

I have always had a special place in my heart for the Nederlanders (and on several fenders and bumpers as well - did I forget to mention they are the worst drivers?).  And yes, I have snickered as they passed their very liberal (in the dictionary sense of the word) laws.  After all, it is their country.

But for a change, I am glad to see them drawing a line.  And I hope they keep to it.  The Dutch are a strange people, but always friendly and nice to have as friends.  And while we can grin and bear a menage a trois (odyssey as it is), there are some things we cannot grin and bear.  And apparently neither can they.

As for the NAMBLA ilk, we allow this pond scum to live, as long as they do not act out their deviancy.  And at least for now, the most liberal country in the world is saying , yes it is Deviant.  So dont go there.

I hope they do not change that opinion.


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on Jun 03, 2006
Yes, Virginia, there really is a... line even the Dutch won't cross.
on Jun 03, 2006
Ack. Notice also the part about sex with animals....


I'd add, their standard of "consenting adults" is pretty low at 16, though admirably not as nutty as the Canadian standard of 14. Granted, Canada has a different standard for sex they consider to be demeaning or exploitive for kids that young, but still.

It's nice that they still have some sense of decency floating around in there. My personal opinion has always been that the only reasons they don't have tons of social problems from their permissivness is because they didn't have many to begin with, and frankly no one that would cause much trouble would probably want to live there, permissive or not.

The people that I have talked to that have been there have described it as the most boring place on earth, which seems odd with it steeped in this kind of permissiveness. I guess if you have a generally boring population you can let them go nuts without much effect. In the US it would look like the post-apocalypse in a matter of weeks...
on Jun 03, 2006

Yes, Virginia, there really is a... line even the Dutch won't cross.

Virginia is getting a work out!

on Jun 03, 2006

Ack. Notice also the part about sex with animals....


I'd add, their standard of "consenting adults" is pretty low at 16,

Sorry, I am not Peta.  You want to screw an animal, I am not going to worry about it (unless you abuse them).  The age is not great, but as you point out, a lot better than Canada and until recently Kansas.

The people that I have talked to that have been there have described it as the most boring place on earth,

Got a phone number?  It really is not (at least for a visit).  It is harrowing (as in the worst drivers).  But fun to visit.

on Jun 03, 2006
Ummm, no double entendre there. Or wait, maybe a triple entendre, since the original author of the article is from Virginia... and Virginia is getting a work out since she's a little girl in the hands of Dutch NAMBLA... oh forget it. I'm going to bed.
on Jun 03, 2006
Well, the people I talked to were there on business, and honestly weren't people that would have been interested in the legalities there. They described it as being akin to visiting Ohio, if Ohio was its own country. *shrug* To each his own, I guess.
on Jun 03, 2006

Ummm, no double entendre there. Or wait, maybe a triple entendre, since the original author of the article is from Virginia... and Virginia is getting a work out since she's a little girl in the hands of Dutch NAMBLA... oh forget it. I'm going to bed.

Good night Dave!

on Jun 03, 2006

They described it as being akin to visiting Ohio, if Ohio was its own country. *shrug* To each his own, I guess.

Uh, I have lived in Ohio, and The Netherlands is not Ohio!  Connecticut, or Vermont, maybe.  Maybe they have to get out more?

on Jun 04, 2006

That's enough to make me puke!

good Lord...what next? 

granted I was over-protected,  yet at 12 I was still into dolls and and just starting to develop teenybopper crushes on Frankie Avon and Fabian...certainly kids that age aren't emotionally and mentally ready to handle all that goes with having sexual relations,  and further more anyone wanting to be with children that age has got a major mental disease not helped with therapy or medicine. 
I won't say what would help those sickos....

on Jun 04, 2006

certainly kids that age aren't emotionally and mentally ready to handle all that goes with having sexual relations

Most civilized people readily admit that.  But for the sick, they seek any excuse to practice their deviancy.

on Jun 05, 2006
*proceeds to vomit*

Ok, now...let me say one thing. That is totally sick! (The age thing) I am glad some people had sense to say, "hell no."

Anywho...

~L
on Jun 05, 2006

I am glad some people had sense to say, "hell no."

They have already allowed a woman to marry a dolphin, and a man to marry (or civil union them) 2 women.  I wonder how long the no will last.

on Jun 06, 2006
I don't have a problem with consenting adults doing what ever makes them feel good so long as they're not hurting anyone. But 12 years old in no way can be called adult. I hope the Dutch maintain some common sense and tell NAMBLA where to go.
on Jun 06, 2006

But 12 years old in no way can be called adult.

Legal or not, if I found some cretin playing footsies with my children at that age, the best they could hope for is Shovelheat's Cure.

on Oct 27, 2006
Posted Saturday, June 03, 2006 on A Breath of Sanity
Discussion: International

Okay so it is a bit late in the day for me to try to read the article - it is no longer available. I do get the gist of it though from your article and th ecomments.

Anyone wanting to have sex with a 12 year old is nothing more than a pervert. PERVERT PERVERT!

Now doc I have to ask you a question about you remark to Baker Street

Sorry, I am not Peta. You want to screw an animal, I am not going to worry about it (unless you abuse them). The age is not great, but as you point out, a lot better than Canada and until recently Kansas.


How is having sex with an animal NOT abuse? I reckon you got your wording a bit fuzzed up there. ::
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