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Published on May 22, 2006 By Dr Guy In Politics

To start off with, no, my Spanish is lousier than lousy so I would be nailed in a heartbeat.

But many people are!  Who? You ask.  Why? You ask?  How? You ask.

OK, so maybe some of you are not asking those questions and just thought what a weird title for a blog.

But the Who is the rest of Latin America (why Latin?  can anyone tell me?  French and Italian are Latin based languages.  Why is Spanish singled out for that designation?).  The Why is because they don't like plane trips.  The how is by learning Mexican history and pretending to be Mexicans.

But the why answer above is the diamond in the rough!  It is part of it.  For the answer is that when a central or south American is caught sneaking across the border, they are detained, a background check is done, and usually within 24 hours, they are given a plane ride home.  To El Salvador, Columbia, Venezuela (guess Chavez's workers paradise is not so hot for some of the natives).  And to get back to the border requires again crossing the Mexican southern border where the Mexicans are not as nice as the Norte Americano Gringos.  Nope, the Mexicans are serious about their border!  Their southern border!

So for many non-Mexican illegal immigrants, a plane ticket home is the end of their quest for America.  not the next step.

But what happens to the Mexicans that are caught?  Basically the same deal.  Except no plane ride, just a bus ride to the other side of the border where in a day, 2 at most, they are sneaking back.  So if you are a Central or South American trying to get into the US, where do you want to start your journey?  Mexico?  Or south of Mexico?

Many of the illegal immigrants want to be Americans.  But apparently many of the non-Mexican illegals want to be Mexican as well!  So their next attempt is a few yards, not thousands of miles.

Si Senor.  I am a Mexican.  A very ironic twist of fate, but apparently Mexico is a lot better than many of the other Latin American nations, even if you have to live there.


Comments
on May 22, 2006
Latin America is so called because it was colonized by speakers of Spanish and Portuguese, both Latin languages.

Traditionally, this was to distinguish it from the parts of the New World colonized by (primarily) English speakers.

Yes, yes, I know about the French in North America, but seriously, there's a huge linguistic and cultural shift, just north of the Rio Grande.

Latin America would be so called if it had been colonized by Italians and Frenchmen, for the same reason. If it had been colonized by the Chinese, it'd be called Sino-America, or something.

Spanish wasn't singled out for anything. It's a Latin language, and its speakers singled out the Americas for colonization. Hence the name "Latin America".
on May 22, 2006
Latin America is so called because it was colonized by speakers of Spanish and Portuguese, both Latin languages.

Traditionally, this was to distinguish it from the parts of the New World colonized by (primarily) English speakers.

Yes, yes, I know about the French in North America, but seriously, there's a huge linguistic and cultural shift, just north of the Rio Grande.

Latin America would be so called if it had been colonized by Italians and Frenchmen, for the same reason. If it had been colonized by the Chinese, it'd be called Sino-America, or something.

Spanish wasn't singled out for anything. It's a Latin language, and its speakers singled out the Americas for colonization. Hence the name "Latin America".
on May 22, 2006

Reply By: stutefish

Ok, thank you for that.  So does that mean Quebec is also Latin America?

I know!  Just yanking a chain.  But actually you did fill in some blanks (small ones).  It seems that Latin America is a very racist term to me.  Kind of on par with "Gringo Norte America".

But that is just me.

After all, I am French, and my Wife is Hispanc.  SO of course I am a latin american bigot.

on May 22, 2006
Si Dr. Guy...Vote for Pedro!!!

on May 22, 2006
To El Salvador, Columbia, Venezuela


while there are certainly colombians and venezuelans, they're wayyyyy outnumbered by guatemalans, hondurans, nicaraguans and (yes) salvadorans: those who somehow survived but--like their beautiful but savagely impoverished native countries--may never truly recover from everything we did 20-30 years ago to enforce upon them the freedom to be ground into the dirt by the likes of rios montt, d’aubuisson & the somozas (to name just a few).
on May 22, 2006
the crops are all in and the peaches are rottin,
the oranges are packed in their creosote dumps.
they're flying 'em back to that mexican border
to take all their money to wade back next year.

my father's own father, he waded that river
they took all the money he made in his life
my brothers and sisters come working the fruit trees
and they rode the truck till they took down and died.

goodbye to you juan, farewell rosalita
adios mi amigos, jesus y maria
you won't have a name when you ride the big airplane.
all they will call you will be...
deportees

some of us are illegals, others not wanted
our work contract's out and we have to move on
but it's six hundred miles to that mexican border
and they chase us like outlaws, like rustlers, like theives.

we died in your hills, we died in your deserts
we died in your valleys and died on your plains
we died 'neath your trees and we died in your bushes
both sides of the river, we died just the same.

goodbye to you juan, farewell rosalita
adios mi amigos, jesus y maria
you won't have a name when you ride the big airplane.
all they will call you will be...
deportees

the skyplane caught fire over los gatos canyon.
like a fireball of lightning it shook all our hills
who are these dear friends all scattered like dry leaves?
the radio says they are just deportees.

goodbye to you juan, farewell rosalita
adios mi amigos, jesus y maria
you won't have a name when you ride the big airplane.
all they will call you will be...
deportees

is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
is this the best way we can grow our good fruit?
have em fall like dry leaves to rot on our topsoil
and be called by no name except...
deportees.

plane wreck at los gatos (deportees)
lyrics by woody guthrie

(written after reading about the event which occured in 1948)
on May 23, 2006

Si Dr. Guy...Vote for Pedro!!!

Crazy like a Fox.

on May 23, 2006

while there are certainly colombians and venezuelans,

They come from every country south of the border, even Brazil.  But I did not feel naming them all would add anything to the article.

And I can blame the romans for enslaving my ancestors and grinding them into the dirt for my failure to amount to anything, but it wont change my lot in life, nor will it feed my kids.  past injustices, real or percieved are not going to explain the 20 year old man who has decided to play a victim because someone crapped on his parents. Nor is it really germaine to the gist of this article.