Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.
Published on May 19, 2006 By Dr Guy In Politics

It seems that the loony loopy Luddite left has been reduced to baby talk.  No longer able to discuss issues rationally, they must resort to using on of the 3 title words to enter into any discussion or debate.  No longer able to engage in rational discourse, the first words out of their mouth is "bush is Hitler" or "conservatives are Nazis" or "this amendment is racist" (Harry Reid).

Racist?  OK, as Bakerstreet likes to point out, it is cultural supremacist.  It is jingoistic.  But Racists?  Since when is a race, any race, limited to one language?  Whites?  Nein, Mein herr (oder Damen).  Blacks?  How many know that Swahili is a made up language by {shock} Englishmen!  The continent speaks more languages, as do blacks the world over, than carter has liver pills (Ever seen a Black German speaking fluent German and English with a British accent?  I have!)  Hispanics?  get a life!  They are not a race.  They include not only people of Spanish descent, but Portuguese as well (want to tell the Portuguese are really Spanish?  Want to live very long?)  And no, not all speak Spanish!  Seen the blond haired senorita from Majorca?  Asian?  While the Chinese and Japanese writings are very pretty, they are hardly interchangeable.  And what about Korean, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc.  Polynesian?  Send a Tahitian to Hawaii and see how well he gets along!

No, the simple fact is language is language, and race is race.  And to make a statement like Harry Reid did is tantamount to extreme bigotry.  And ignorance.  But I repeat myself.

No, harry Reid, the only thing racist about making English the National language of the US is your statement.  It may be egotistical.  It may be arrogant.  It may be superfluous.  But it is not racist.  No, Harry Reid, you are the racist for thinking that all foreigners only speak Spanish, and thus must fit into your myopic stereotype of being Mexicans - which in itself is very racist as well.  You learned well from your democrat roots.  Congratulations and you may now don your hood from your racist roots.


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on May 20, 2006
It is YOUR best culture (and it is mine


Okay.

)And yes, it is better than Sudan, Ruwanda, Iraq, Iran, or even Mexico (a very xenophobic society if there ever was one).


Infinitely so.


WHy? Because it is the one we can and will identify with because it is the one we want to live in. Every one who CHOOSES a culture is a culture supremacist. Period.


But Doc, Western (and that includes American) culture is the best culture in the history of the world. You can debate it till you're blue in the face, as Baker does, and with some mighty fine points, I admit, but WC has provided most of the major advances in, say, engineering, education and economics, of any in the world. It has influenced other cultures, which try to emulate it to varying degrees of success and failure. How many other cultures can make that claim? Maybe Ancient Greece or Rome----hey---those were Western Cultures, weren't they?
on May 20, 2006

But Doc, Western (and that includes American) culture is the best culture in the history of the world. You can debate it till you're blue in the face, as Baker does,

No, that is where you err.  American culture is not Western culture.  It belongs to the same genus, but not sub genus.  So let them argue that Mayan (my personal favorite), Zimbabwian, Hunan, Szchuan, or Shinto is the best. They are merely exercising sophistry.  And confirming my statement that American is the best.

on May 20, 2006

Reply By: BakerStreet

Reply By: Rightwinger

Excuse me for butting into your debate.  As you have decided to take it to another venue, I will delete these responses and we can get back to the subject at hand.  Before I do, I will save them in case anyone wants to read them.  Otherwise, have fun.

on May 20, 2006
No, you lack a general knowledge of HIstory. Whether the US would be 'Coast to coast' is a question. Spaniards were never strong enough to make the US speak spanish (although we do use their dollar). The french have never won anything, so that was never a question. Quite simply, the politics of the time. We could be speaking English or German.


No you missed my point. I am saying IF not what did happen but if things happened differently we wouldn't be speaking English. Yeah yeah I have heard all the arguements against French and Spanish but I am not convinced that couldn't have happened differently. Take a few of the tide changing events and the story turns. That's all. Nothing historical more speculating that's all.
on May 20, 2006
Excuse me for butting into your debate. As you have decided to take it to another venue, I will delete these responses and we can get back to the subject at hand. Before I do, I will save them in case anyone wants to read them. Otherwise, have fun.


Okay, sorry Doc.
on May 20, 2006
lol, nm.
on May 21, 2006
Dr Guy is spot on when he says that Race cannot be equated with language. This equation has done a great deal of harm all over the world. I also agree that making immigrants learn English is not racists at all. If someone chooses to immigrate to USA he/she must learn to speak English. The multiculturalists have it all wrong when they say all languages are equal. The simple fact is that English is the language of science, technology, the internet and the language of knowledge. It does not belong any more to the British. English belongs to the world and hence there is nothing wrong in making people learn that language.
on May 21, 2006

No you missed my point. I am saying IF not what did happen but if things happened differently we wouldn't be speaking English. Yeah yeah I have heard all the arguements against French and Spanish but I am not convinced that couldn't have happened differently. Take a few of the tide changing events and the story turns. That's all. Nothing historical more speculating that's all.

Ok, now I understand.  And yes, had history been a little different (as in Nelson lost instead of won), your scenario could have played out.

on May 21, 2006
Isn't it just a tad cheesy to delete my response and yet leave the rant directed at me by name that I was responding to (#29)? No offense, it's your blog.
on May 21, 2006

I also agree that making immigrants learn English is not racists at all. If someone chooses to immigrate to USA he/she must learn to speak English.

Here is the irony as well. Americans are often referred to as Ugly americans because they go to a foreign country and expect to be understood speaking English.  And they should be for such an enormous ego!  Yet when people come here, we are still ugly americans for expecting the same courtesy as other countries expect?

Very Ironic indeed.

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