Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

Yes, before a certain person can blame the latest ill on Bush, I decided to expose this new abomination that has as its root, George W. Bush.

It seems that the director of Hostel, a totally depraved and disgusting movie (yes I have seen it), Eli Roth, has decided that in addition to world war, Malaria, Dysentery, and the pain of psoriasis, Bush is also responsible for a resurgence in horror films.  Never mind that they have never left us, and the only difference between Hostel and Texas Chain Saw Massacre (released in the 70s - Bush's Fault I am sure) is the setting.  Never mind the countless sequels to Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Halloween that have cursed us over the last 25 years.  No, they don't count.  Or if they do, they are Bush's fault as well.

No, the reason Horror movies have had a new (as in old or tried or repeat) renaissance is because people need to scream. (The movie in no way compares with a classic like Psycho that actually did make one scream).  Even though during the screening I saw, I heard no screams, just an occasional retching (some even for the horror scenes, but mostly due to the lousy directing).

So for certain clueless liberals, young and old, now you have another Bash Bush topic.  Hostel.

It is all Bush's fault.


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on Apr 18, 2006

And when he does, we can boo his movies off the stage!

My son can read you chapter and verse on which director did what and such.  He is really into movies (all types), but I cant tell you what else Roth has done.  However I can tell you that he is no Alfred Hitchcock!

on Apr 18, 2006
I actually think that Hostel was Roth's first flick. That's why he showed it at some obscure horror film fest first and somehow got Quentin Tarantino to throw his name on the top to try to give it some "street cred".

I find the whole idea of the movie disturbing at any rate, and chose not to see it, but whatever. He should just stick to making bloody gorefest, and obviously keep his hands out of cognitive thought.
on Apr 18, 2006

That's why he showed it at some obscure horror film fest first and somehow got Quentin Tarantino to throw his name on the top to try to give it some "street cred".

I find the whole idea of the movie disturbing at any rate, and chose not to see it

I indulged my son, but afterwards told him I was thoroughly disgusted with it.  All he could talk about was the cinematic aspects of it!  if he does not go to a college with a good film department, I am going to wring his neck!  He really sees a lot more than I in films.

on Apr 18, 2006
Never mind that they have never left us, and the only difference between Hostel and Texas Chain Saw Massacre (released in the 70s - Bush's Fault I am sure) is the setting


Well, I disagree with that. As far as I remember, most of the gore in the original TCM was off screen. (For example, when Leatherface hangs the person on the hook, we see him lift them, then drop them, then the shot cuts to the feet where we see blood splattering down. Today, we'd get loving slow-mo shots of the hooks piercing the flesh, etc.) It's more about intensity and mood. As far as I recall the goriest thing we actually see is at the very end when Leatherface falls and his chainsaw rips his leg a little. What I compare to TCM is the first Jurasic Park because of its disturbing unrelenting intensity. In fact, that's what I wrote about JP at the time of it's release: "a disquieting intensity not seen since Texas Chainsaw Massacre."

Anywho....


I do not think Bush had anything to do with Horror Movies.


Of course he did! Didn't you see Fahrenheit 9/11?


on Apr 18, 2006

(For example, when Leatherface hangs the person on the hook, we see him lift them, then drop them, then the shot cuts to the feet where we see blood splattering down. Today, we'd get loving slow-mo shots of the hooks piercing the flesh, etc.)

Another one like my son!

Of course he did! Didn't you see Fahrenheit 9/11?

Ohh! Point set and match!

on Apr 18, 2006
What I find unfortunate is how Nash, apparently, chose to make a blanket statement without any intellectual property to back it up. A really interesting study could be made exploring why (perhaps) horror movies enjoy a spike in both production and viewership (chicken or egg?) during certain times, because there are periods where such films are more prevalent then others. Is there a relation to wars? Economics? Presidents? Political parties? Or religious movements which encourage teenage girls to take their boyfriends to movies instead of making out? The possiblities are endless, really.
on Apr 19, 2006
Oh the horror! the agony! how dare Bush do this to the american people? has he no concious?['/quote]

Yep, let me be the first to say I also blame Bush for the recent spate of bad romcoms. I mean, if he is going to be responsible for schlockfests he should also be responsible for bad romcoms too.

I am not a George Bush fan but this accusation is absolutely ridiculous. Well pointed out, Doc.
on Apr 19, 2006

Is there a relation to wars? Economics? Presidents? Political parties? Or religious movements which encourage teenage girls to take their boyfriends to movies instead of making out? The possiblities are endless, really.

Given my son's love of movies and analysis of them, I will publish his conclusions as soon as he reaches them.

on Apr 19, 2006

Yep, let me be the first to say I also blame Bush for the recent spate of bad romcoms. I mean, if he is going to be responsible for schlockfests he should also be responsible for bad romcoms too.

I am not a George Bush fan but this accusation is absolutely ridiculous. Well pointed out, Doc.

What is a romcom?

And if he is responsible, would that include Wolf Creek? (not a bad movie from Australia).  If so, then does that make him king of the world?

on Apr 19, 2006
Is Bush also responsible for Brokeback Mountain?
on Apr 19, 2006
You may have missed a joke I posted earlier and in the spirit of adding some humor I will post it again.

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were on Air Force One. Bush took a $1,000 bill out of his wallet and tossed it out the window. He said that will make someone happy.

Cheney took 10 $100 dollar bills out and tossed them out the window and said I will make 10 people happy. Rummy decided to toss 100 $10 dollar bills out and said I will make 100 people happy.

The pilot turned to his co-pilot and said if I bank this plane hard and toss all three of them out I will make Millions happy.
on Apr 19, 2006

Is Bush also responsible for Brokeback Mountain?

Hmmmm, I wonder if Eli Roth thinks so?

on Apr 19, 2006

The pilot turned to his co-pilot and said if I bank this plane hard and toss all three of them out I will make Millions happy.

Old joke, it was originally Bill and Hillary.  SO you not only dislike Bush, but every one around him as well?  Hmmmmmmmmmm.......

on Apr 19, 2006
'Romcom' is short for romantic comedy although of those I've seen recently there is neither anything romantic or comedic about them.

Yes, 'Wolf Creek' is an Australian movie. It is a nail-biting scary movie for sure and if you mean 'good' as in 'disturbing' then I agree.
on Apr 19, 2006

'Romcom' is short for romantic comedy although of those I've seen recently there is neither anything romantic or comedic about them.

Yes, 'Wolf Creek' is an Australian movie. It is a nail-biting scary movie for sure and if you mean 'good' as in 'disturbing' then I agree.

RonCom - Brain fart!  I reallized that after I posted.  Call me stupid!

And yes on Wolf Creek!  It was very good!  I hated it, which means it was good!  Not like Hostel where it was just disgusting.  Wolf Creek was actually innovative!

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