Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

Over the past several months, we have been regaled by the incompetent mainstream media on how the impending plea bargain by Jack Abramoff was a killer issue for the republicans, since he was a republican fund raiser!  Oh the shame!  The dirt and scandal!  How could those wascally wepublicans get away with this sleaze?

But notice it was only the MSM doing the finger pointing.  Strangely, the democrat leadership has been very silent on the whole Abramoff issue!  Why?  Unlike the lies they spread on Bush, this should be a juicy scandal to exploit!  Especially in an election year!  And they love anything that even has a whiff of scandal (Bush I to Paris before the 80 election!  Reasons for going into Iraq. Ted {hic} Kennedy: Lies, lies, lies).

Well, perhaps the reason they are silent, is like the third Reich at the end of the war, they are too busy burning sensitive documents!  yes!  For it seems that Abramoff is an equal opportunity fund raiser! 40 of the 45 members of the democrat caucus in the senate have benefited from Abramoff's ill gotten booty (or as hawkeye says, ill booten gotti).  And not just chump change either!

One of the best is Harry Reid!  The holier than tho caster of aspersions against anyone not a democrat. (who admits he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer!).  yea, he seemed to pick up some nice pocket change after canvasing the Bureau of Indian Affairs to allow a Casino, and then pocketed 10 grand from a couple of Abramoff clients ("I never met the man!  How did I know where the money came from?")

Ah, so in all honesty, many politicians from both parties reaped rewards from Abramoff, not just republicans.  And the democrats want this to quietly go away as much, if not more, than the republicans.  But their faithful lap dogs in the MSM, who cant get a story straight or tell the difference between an Internet rumor and actual facts, did not get the memo!  So while the MSM is trying to pillory the republicans, the democrats are crossing their fingers and hoping it will go away!

Lap dogs are such great animals!  Loving loyal and kind!  Everyone should have one, as they look up to their masters as demi-gods!  But they are also too stupid to know when the master is trying to shush them!

Oh the irony!  We shall see what comes out now that a plea deal has been reached.  I wonder if any more of Chuckie Cheeses (sorry, Schumer's) staffers are going to fall on the sword on this one!

Bets anyone?


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on Jan 07, 2006

Apparently it's a traditional garb of the Orthodox Jew, a subculture with which Abramoff at least occasionally identifies.

I had no idea either.  Thanks for that tidbit.

on Jan 07, 2006

hint: abramoff may have contributed to a lotta people who shoulda been honest or smart enough to have turned him down...but that's hardly the issue is it?


No, but it should be!

Long before Abramoff, we already knew that politicians were not the smartest cookies in the bin.

on Jan 07, 2006

The only problem is, reality keeps getting in their way.

The majority of the "press" wouldn't know unless it was printed at the bottom of a bar glass

Very true!  They have lost the ability to investigate, and now just regurgitate.

on Jan 07, 2006
Here is a list of congressmen who have been implicated in the scandal:

Tom DeLay (R-TX)
Bob Ney (R-OH)
Tom Feeney (R-FL)
Richard Pombo's (R-CA)
Mike Ferguson (R-NJ)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Conrad Burns (R-Montana)
John Cornyn (R-Texas)
David Vitter (R-Louisiana)
Tom Harkin (D-Iowa)
Charles Grassley (R-Iowa)
William Gormley (R-NJ)

Looks like just a few more republicans than democrats...
on Jan 07, 2006
Here is a list of congressmen who have been implicated in the scandal:

Tom DeLay (R-TX)
Bob Ney (R-OH)
Tom Feeney (R-FL)
Richard Pombo's (R-CA)
Mike Ferguson (R-NJ)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Conrad Burns (R-Montana)
John Cornyn (R-Texas)
David Vitter (R-Louisiana)
Tom Harkin (D-Iowa)
Charles Grassley (R-Iowa)
William Gormley (R-NJ)

Looks like just a few more republicans than democrats...


You aren't getting it are you? What matters about this list? Nothing except for the fact it's "BOTH" sides of the fence! The amount of republicans versus the number of democrats means absolutely "squat"! Since you don't get it let me help ya....... Both sides of the fence have crooks! We know that. We really don't care how much of each there are, just as long as they "all" get what they deserve.
on Jan 07, 2006
The two party system does not work when one party controls both the legislative and executive braches and is trying to pack the judicial branch as well. We also need to STOP the big money interests from being able to buy what they want at the expense of the average American.


So Colon "I am a graduate of the U.S. Army War College and a military retiree, but I'm still clueless as to how our government works" Bin Grangrene, which state or Congressional District would you suggest lose its right to elect the candidate of their choice?

You see, (party politics aside), the office of Senator and House Member ARE NOT federal (or party) assignments. They are state and district offices held by those chosen by the people of the State and District.

Nobody sat down and planned a majority for either party, the voters had their say and the majority and minority parties took their places based on that say.

For you to sit and whine about the outcome is proof that, not only are you clueless to the way our system of government works, you aren't mature enough to be able to handle your own freedom.

Aren't you glad people aren't taking away your freedom, even though you can't handle it?
on Jan 08, 2006
You see, (party politics aside), the office of Senator and House Member ARE NOT federal (or party) assignments. They are state and district offices held by those chosen by the people of the State and District.

Nobody sat down and planned a majority for either party, the voters had their say and the majority and minority parties took their places based on that say.


this is so sadly naive (altho commendably idealistic) i'm nearly--but not quite--speechless.

you do realize why delay was indicted? if not, lemme refresh your memory. he allegedly funneled money donated by non-residents of texas to give an edge to republican candidates running for both state and national office.

his actions--should he be convicted--would represent exactly what you're denying could ever possibly happen.
on Jan 08, 2006
while i may not agree with col gene, the colon bin laden gangrene thing has become something which, even if it doesn't violate the tos (as i believe it might; if not, it should) diminishes the quality of the ju experience. it's mean, disrespectful and, worst of all, totally devoid at this point--actually that happened about the third or fourth instance--of whatever sophomoric amusement it once evoked.

each of us has, i'd guess, at least a couple (if not a couple more) ju associates capable and/or seemingly hellbent on aggravating, frustrating, infuriating, etc. us in their own inimitable fashion.

col gene has (to the best of my knowledge) not responded in kind nor even complained about the liberties you take with his nick--which i find impressive cuz i know i woulda done something about it a long time ago if i were him (as you would have, i suspect).

and now i return you to the vitriolic political diatribe... umm i mean well-reasoned and good-mannered debate...part of the program
on Jan 08, 2006
I was talking about the last five years of the Bush Administration as NOT WORKING for the vast majority of Americans.
on Jan 08, 2006
KingBee:

you do realize why delay was indicted? if not, lemme refresh your memory. he allegedly funneled money donated by non-residents of texas to give an edge to republican candidates running for both state and national office.

his actions--should he be convicted--would represent exactly what you're denying could ever possibly happen.


Oh, I don't deny that at all. In fact it is evidence that even the senators and representatives have forgotten their place. The truly sad part is, we have allowed them to. However, that doesn't mean I have to bow to the ignorance and just accept it.

Even if the parties have bastardized the purpose of Congress, and rhetoric has all but removed the members from any responsibility from their votes or public statements, the U.S. Constitution is still viable and it still assigns them the responsibilities from which they hide. It also still reminds them that they work for the people of their district and their states... even if they seem to resent the fact.
on Jan 08, 2006
while i may not agree with col gene, the colon bin laden gangrene thing has become something which, even if it doesn't violate the tos (as i believe it might; if not, it should) diminishes the quality of the ju experience. it's mean, disrespectful and, worst of all, totally devoid at this point--actually that happened about the third or fourth instance--of whatever sophomoric amusement it once evoked.


Amen to that.
on Jan 08, 2006
while i may not agree with col gene, the colon bin laden gangrene thing has become something which, even if it doesn't violate the tos (as i believe it might; if not, it should) diminishes the quality of the ju experience. it's mean, disrespectful and, worst of all, totally devoid at this point--actually that happened about the third or fourth instance--of whatever sophomoric amusement it once evoked.

each of us has, i'd guess, at least a couple (if not a couple more) ju associates capable and/or seemingly hellbent on aggravating, frustrating, infuriating, etc. us in their own inimitable fashion.

col gene has (to the best of my knowledge) not responded in kind nor even complained about the liberties you take with his nick--which i find impressive cuz i know i woulda done something about it a long time ago if i were him (as you would have, i suspect).

and now i return you to the vitriolic political diatribe... umm i mean well-reasoned and good-mannered debate...part of the program


KB....I'l just leave you with the same thought I gave steve.


#17 by drmiler
Sunday, January 08, 2006





I'll guarantee that the col isn't poking fun. He was serious.


A given, he definitely needs to lighten up and get off the kick of Bush-bashing.


You know, really I don't mind people coming down on GW. I "like" him and I did vote for him and I "do" stick up for him however....that does not mean I agree with him 100%. Some of the stuff he's done, I do not agree with. That being said, it's one thing to disagree with him. It's something else entirely to take every perceived ill and try to pin it on GW "every" time you open your mouth.


"When and if" the col takes this advise, the comments to him will more than likely die down! And just an FYI "if" it were "really" against TOS don't you think one of the admin's would have said something by now?
on Jan 09, 2006
Ah, so in all honesty, many politicians from both parties reaped rewards from Abramoff, not just republicans.


in all honesty, how many democrats received one cent of the $204,235.00 abramoff admits to have personally donated to politicians?

please just answer that question. none of the usual evasive obtuse spin, please.
on Jan 09, 2006
When and if" the col takes this advise, the comments to him will more than likely die down!


first of all, what gives you the right to decide who deserves to be treated with a total lack of respect?

i were you, i'd consider moving outta my own glass doublewide before i resumed tossing stones.

your use of those damned *s to indicate emphasis have annoyed me for a long while. how about i start referring to you from now on as dr*miler* and then maybe continue in that direction and go for somethin like dr asstricks?

when and if you stop using them (and quit quoting the entire text of every post upon which you feel the need to comment), perhaps i'd let it go.
on Jan 09, 2006
in all honesty, how many democrats received one cent of the $204,235.00 abramoff admits to have personally donated to politicians? please just answer that question. none of the usual evasive obtuse spin, please.


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