Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

That is an interesting question.  When the price of gas was too high, what did you do?

Many bitched and moaned and accused the greedy oil companies of price gouging.  Indeed, Congress wants (another) committee to look into it.  And some of the moaners were actually Republicans.  But alas, most were Green Friendly democrats.  So question number one is: Why?

When the price went through the ceiling, I cut back.  Many did, some could not.  But consumption did fall.  Which means that less bad gasses were getting into the atmosphere, and hence global warming was delayed by a day or two.  So what was the problem there?  For all the green friendly people, what is so bad about high energy prices?  Don't you even listen to your constituency?  Earth friendly, ELF, The Sierra Club, all want that, why don't you?  If you goal is to reduce the green house gasses, jack up the price!  Hell, those quick trips to the market will disappear as will many long vacation drives.

OK, so you are not a green.  But you are all for the poor and do not want them to suffer.  So prices have to stay low.  Now question number 2: How do you ensure low prices?

Answer: Increase supply!  The more available gas, then the producers cannot demand a price, they have to bid for your patronage!  And how do you increase the supply?  Drill for more!  So why are the liberals who pretend they want to help the poor, not for drilling in ANWR?  While that may not reduce the price of oil to 50 cents a gallon, it will do a couple of things.  First, it will moderate the price rise (that is called a cut in Washington-ease - just ask Gideon on his Food Stamp article).  Second, it will increase the supply, which will lead to actual reductions in price.  The poor will be helped!  A perfect solution to one of the poor's problems.  Actually many since oil is the basis for many of life's taken for granted pleasures!

So why are the "For the Poor" liberals not in favor of increasing the supply?

So here we have a nice little quiz.  I would love to hear how we can stop global warming, decrease the price of oil, help the poor, save the environment, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil so we don't have to have another war for oil.

But wait!  We have one more question.  OK, substitutes.  How many are for replacing oil as an energy source?  OK, how many have voted against new Nuclear power plants.  Since the first one built, only one has had a significant accident, and that was in the old USSR.  They are environmentally friendly, so there is no green house gasses.  But, there is that pesky spent uranium!  Yea, that is a mess, right?

OK, so their is solar power and wind power and water power!  But wait!  Strike water power.  That stops fish from fulfilling their manifest destiny.  So how about solar and Wind power? Oh, drat!  There are those ugly windmills and solar panels!  As we heard from  Bobby Jr, better to burn oil, than to despoil a view of a beach!  And those solar panels? Well, on a large scale they have not been commercially feasible yet.  But they are on an individual basis!

So the next question is - How many of the Greens now use solar or wind energy solely?  What? only a handful?  Why how could they be dangerous?  Is that not the be all and end all of their positions?  What?  They still burn fossil fuels? (a misnomer BTW).

OK, Final Question:  Who is bitching about no energy policy?  And how does their voting record stand with the above issues and questions?

And you still vote for them on this issue?

Sorry, one more question.  If you are a green, why are you not producing alternate sources of energy to oil?  Are you so lazy as to let someone else get rich off your ideas, and then blast them for getting rich because they are more ambitious than you?


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on Dec 28, 2005

COL,

IF your statement is correct, why didn't oil prices KEEP climbing instead of coming down? The reason they came dfown is people STOPPED BUYING as much.

IN this case, I have to agree with Terpfan, that COL stands for Clueless old Liberal.  And you just shot him down very well!

on Dec 28, 2005

Reply By: sushiK
Posted: Wednesday, December 28, 2005
OMG I think i know now why everyone is always so pissed at Col.
You can;t just keep ramming the same message again and again.

you know, in this debate, I have come to respect you a lot more.  And with the above insight, a whole lot more!  We may not vote for the same candidates, but you are a very smart person!  And have some ideas worth debating (even if I do not agree with them).

on Dec 28, 2005

I seem to like this article alot, good job Dr Guy.

Thank you and carry on!  I am enjoying the debate going on.

on Dec 28, 2005

How do you explain the poor that Katrina uncovered? The ones Bush talked about in New Orleans 10 days after the storm. They still are POOR and they still exist! They are not just young people starting out.

Uh, this is about energy.  If you want to blog about all the poor that starved to death after Katrina, be my guest!  On your own time!  But a suggestion (since I wont be reading it I really dont give a damn), make sure you have some links to back up your Bush bash.

on Dec 28, 2005
If only you could stop supporting policies that have given us the trade deficit, the Federal deficit, our bankrupt energy policy, our non solution for Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and the Iraq War that has not made us safer. There is NOTHING that Bush and his policies have done to solve ANY of the major issues that existed when he took office and he has added several new problems. I do not hate the man Bush just what the man Bush has done to our country!
on Dec 28, 2005
I will leave you to the debate! You are doing a lot better than I! Have a cookie for that one!


Wow, my first cookie. I am so proud of myself.

How do you explain the poor that Katrina uncovered?


Your kidding me right? How exactly do poor hide to the point that a storm is needed to find them? Stop kidding yourself Col. You are talking about New Orleans, a place where money runs kinda like in Las Vegas, it's just bear and boobs instead of casinos.

They still are POOR and they still exist! They are not just young people starting out.


These are people who lost everything, what do you expect, the Govt to give them everything back? Shit happens (pardon my french), people lose everything, it's up to them to work hard to get it all back and that is not gonna happen in a few months or even a year. Not unless you hit the lotery. Get real Col, these people lost what took them years and sometimes lifetimes to get and you expect them to have it all back in a year? And from the Govt? Have you ever heard the phrease "Nothing is free"? Just let the Govt give you everything you want, just like the Mob, they will eventually want something in return (say a mandatory military as exp.). Wake up an smell the coffee Col.

There is a saying in my Catholic church "God helps those who help themselves". I'm not saying everyone should be catholic, but the saying makes alot of sense. The only way you life can get better is by making it happen yourself. Even those who win the Lottery had to get that $1 somehow and make it to the Lottery machine to play it.
on Dec 28, 2005
If only you could stop supporting policies that have given us the trade deficit, the Federal deficit, our bankrupt energy policy, our non solution for Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and the Iraq War that has not made us safer. There is NOTHING that Bush and his policies have done to solve ANY of the major issues that existed when he took office and he has added several new problems. I do not hate the man Bush just what the man Bush has done to our country!


If you say so Col.
on Dec 28, 2005

If only you could stop supporting policies that have given us the trade deficit, the Federal deficit,

Stop supporting congress?  Sure!  Since they have the purse strings!  But last I checked (and I have not checked all 435 reps) none are named BUSH.

on Dec 28, 2005

There is a saying in my Catholic church "God helps those who help themselves".

I think that is a universal truth!

on Dec 28, 2005
Most of the Bush policies passed Congress with a slim GOP majority like the $40 Billion in Cuts from the 2006 budget that passed after a tie vote in the Senate when Draft Dodger Dick cast the 51st vote.

I do not know what sayings the Catholic Church has but Jesus Christ teaches things VERY different from that and VERY different from what the GOP is doing.
on Dec 28, 2005
Most of the Bush policies passed Congress with a slim GOP majority like the $40 Billion in Cuts from the 2006 budget that passed after a tie vote in the Senate when Draft Dodger Dick cast the 51st vote.


Oh PLEASE do "shut up"! Everyone here is getting sick and tired of hearing the "bash Bush" song and dance!
on Dec 28, 2005
Col i like Bashing Bush (the prez) as much as the next guy but you got to mix it up a bit.
on Dec 28, 2005
Don't blame me, I ride a bicycle everywhere.
on Dec 28, 2005
drmiler
Are you saying that Cheney did not cast the tie breaking vote to cut $40 Billion mostly from the poor last week when the 2006 Budget was approved? You are the one claiming this fact is Bush bashing.
on Dec 28, 2005
drmiler
Are you saying that Cheney did not cast the tie breaking vote to cut $40 Billion mostly from the poor last week when the 2006 Budget was approved? You are the one claiming this fact is Bush bashing.


No you idiot, what I'm claiming is that evry word out of your mouth is either bashing Bush "or" his administration. And to be quite honest I believe you'll find most are sick of it!
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