Democrats - Mugging for their Base

Or, How to accuse the Opposition of your crime.

Published on November 2, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

Senate Democrats Yesterday invoked Rule #21 and dragged the senate into a secret session. The Pretext was that the Senate Intelligence Committee was dragging its heels on completing an investigation into the faulty intelligence for the Iraq War.

The Problem is, it has been completed, except for some foot dragging by the democrats!

According to Pat Roberts, the Chairman:

"We started on Phase Two in February of last year," Roberts said. "On May 17th, it was complete."

But -

when the committee was to begin examining statements by members of the Bush administration and Congress to determine whether the allegedly flawed intelligence had influenced their decisions, Roberts said Democrats balked.

So indeed this was just a cheap stunt. Accomplishing nothing, but making sensational headlines. Which is the only things the democrats seem to be able to do. Nothing constructive, just impede and delay, pontificate and obstruct.

They have become a laughing joke to all except their rabid base.

Comments (Page 2)

davad70

on Nov 04, 2005

They are so arrogant, they have lost the capability to "ask".

I would say this would qualify as "asking";

For more than two years, Senate Democrats have pressed Republicans to address the misuse of intelligence. At every turn, Republicans have blocked efforts to investigate how intelligence was used in the run-up to the war in Iraq. Below details the long record established by Democrats to investigate this matter.

February 3, 2005 – Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts outlining Committee priorities for the coming year and encouraging completion of Phase II.

August 5, 2005 – Senator Rockefeller sent a letter to Senator Roberts expressing concern over the lack of progress on Phase II and calling for a draft to be presented to the Committee at a business meeting in September.

September 29, 2005 – All Committee Democrats joined in additional views to the annual Intelligence Authorization Bill criticizing the lack of progress on Phase II

Link

Dr Guy

on Nov 04, 2005

Reply By: davad70Posted: Friday, November 04, 200

I think your question was already answered in the article. Or did you not read it?

when the committee was to begin examining statements by members of the Bush administration and Congress to determine whether the allegedly flawed intelligence had influenced their decisions, Roberts said Democrats balked.

Dr Guy

on Nov 04, 2005

For more than two years, Senate Democrats have pressed Republicans to address the misuse of intelligence. At every turn, Republicans have blocked efforts to investigate how intelligence was used in the run-up to the war in Iraq. Below details the long record established by Democrats to investigate this matter.

Again, it is the democrats balking. Or are you simply ESL?

davad70

on Nov 04, 2005

You show your lack of respect for the truth almost every time you post something. You do a better job of making yourself look silly than I ever could.

Dr Guy

on Nov 04, 2005

You show your lack of respect for the truth almost every time you post something. You do a better job of making yourself look silly than I ever could.

Actually, I post the facts and then comment on them. But you are welcome to call me silly. I do enjoy laughing at the liberals expense. And there is never a shortage of material.

If you would like to point out a fallacy, by all means do so. But regurgitating what I said and then trying to spin it to say the opposite is not going to win you debating points anywhere but in the MSM or the DNC.

drmiler

on Nov 04, 2005

You show your lack of respect for the truth almost every time you post something. You do a better job of making yourself look silly than I ever could.

Just as much as you show a complete lack of fact finding. This is from CNN:

Roberts: Probe in progress
Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the intelligence committee's ranking Democrat and vice chairman, said the Democratic maneuver was necessary for Americans to learn who was accountable for the way prewar intelligence was used.

"Everything is about accountability to the American people, accountability of the executive branch ... [and] accountability of the oversight of the Congress," Rockefeller said.

He said the committee's Republican majority has refused to request documents from the White House about how the Bush administration crafted arguments for the invasion.

"What disturbs me the most is the majority has been willing, in this senator's judgment, to take orders from this administration when it comes to limiting the scope of appropriate, authorized and necessary oversight investigations," Rockefeller said.

Roberts said his committee has been working on the Phase 2 investigation since May and "we have what we think is a pretty good report." He said the committee will take up the matter next week.

"However long it takes, working in good faith, we will look into Phase 2 and see what we can do and finish that product," Roberts said.

Sen. Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat on the panel, expressed his doubts. "Assurances have been made for months that progress is being made," Levin said. "We have not seen any evidence of it."

Democrats last year had pushed for the second part of the panel's inquiry to be completed before the November 2004 elections.

Link

Daiwa

on Nov 04, 2005

I guess I wasn't explicit enough - the link I provided was to a report already issued by the Presidential commission on the CIA's intelligence apparatus & its pre-war assessments of Iraqi weapons capabilities, headed by a Democrat, BTW.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Dr Guy

on Nov 04, 2005

as much as you show a complete lack of fact finding. This is from CNN:

There you go again! Confusing the liberals with facts!

Dr Guy

on Nov 04, 2005

You too? This is an epidemic of facts posted by conservatives that are quite upsetting to the liberals!

davad70

on Nov 04, 2005

Right there in Daiwa's post he put a quote from Roberts saying Phase 2 was completed on May 17th.

Then Drmiler posts a quote from Roberts saying ""However long it takes, working in good faith, we will look into Phase 2 and see what we can do and finish that product"

That's not a contradiction?

Daiwa

on Nov 04, 2005

Not from my post - I never quoted Roberts, just posted a link. Must be referring to drmiler.

Cheers,
Daiwa

davad70

on Nov 04, 2005

My apologies Daiwa...I meant Dr. Guy

Moderateman

on Nov 04, 2005

The dems, the dems are a funny race, they fight at wrong times and think with their asses.

davad70

on Nov 04, 2005

That was a very insightful comment MM...thanks for bringing your valuable take on the issues.

It may be true that some "dems" think with their asses at times. I might even do it myself every now and then. But I'd much rather that than talk from my ass, resulting in filth, aggression, trashiness, and hostility coming forth all the time.

Dr Guy

on Nov 05, 2005

Taken out of context, yes it is. However when you realize that the only part of phase 2 remaining was the interviews, and the democrats are the ones holding that up, then it is not a contradiction. However, it is hypocrisy on the democrats part. To cry about it not being finished when it is they who will not allow it to be. That will get them 0 votes.

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