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They just cant seem to learn
Published on March 25, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

ABC news in an 'exclusive' story try to pawn off an obviously forged memo that purported to show the GOP talking points over the Schiavo issue. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Schiavo/story?id=600937

The problem is, Just like Dan Rather 6 months ago, it was a forgery.

Now this brings up 2 interesting lessons. 

First, for the people so inclined to believe that the Mainstream Media is not biased (or for the loony loopy luddite lefties that believe it is right wing), this clearly demonstrates that 2 of them are so anxious to get dirt on conservatives that they throw fact checking to the wind (this was an easy fact check that they could have verified in about 10 minutes).  And clearly to all except the loony loopy luddite left, it shows that they are indeed biased for liberals.

Second, it also goes to provide additional data for the contention that you cannot tell or teach liberals anything.  After the Rathergate fiasco, one would assume that those in a similar situation would be extra careful.  One would assume, and one would be wrong.  For that assumption contains sub assumptions.

1. That Liberals can learn from their mistakes

2. That liberals would listen to someone not a liberal.

Both of which are being shown to be patently wrong.

After being wrong for so many years on virtually every issue, that should have given people the clue that Liberals and MSM only glorify mistakes, and never admit them.

Sad in a way as all the carictures of Liberals are being PROVEN true.


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on Mar 25, 2005
Yup, yet another "memogate" is on the horizon. The loony thing about the last one is, not one "reporter" has taken up the challenge of actually investigating the origins of the last fake memo. Apparently there is a story in reporting fake memos, but no apparent interest in who is generating them.

Let's see, a memo with allegedly earthshattering information makes news, an equally earthshattering expose proves the memos to be fakes, yet those who created the fake memos (while commiting felonies) get to remain in anonymity...

And so called "reporters" expect us to consider them "professionals"???

It's getting to the point that the only thing a newspaper is good for, is lining the bottom of a birdcage. If I was a bird, I'd be offended. If I were PETA, I'd sue for the abuse by association!!!! ;~D
on Mar 25, 2005

Yup, yet another "memogate" is on the horizon. The loony thing about the last one is, not one "reporter" has taken up the challenge of actually investigating the origins of the last fake memo. Apparently there is a story in reporting fake memos, but no apparent interest in who is generating them.

The way they got to the bottom of Watergate, Rathergate should be a piece of cake!

It's getting to the point that the only thing a newspaper is good for, is lining the bottom of a birdcage. If I was a bird, I'd be offended. If I were PETA, I'd sue for the abuse by association!!!! ;~D

Which brings up another issue.  Where is PETA in the Terry Schiavo case?  Are we not animals?  That stinks to high heaven as well.

on Mar 25, 2005
For those who are really concerned about inaccurate or misleading news reports, I suggest you check out Media Matters http://mediamatters.org/ . They indict every news outlet that misrepresents or lies about stuff, on all sides of the political spectrum.
on Mar 25, 2005
For those who are really concerned about inaccurate or misleading news reports, I suggest you check out Media Matters Link . They indict every news outlet that misrepresents or lies about stuff, on all sides of the political spectrum.


They are a left wing rag! Are you trying to defend ABC? Defend the indefensible?
on Mar 25, 2005
Now dabe, please stop trying to make them out for something they are not. They even say that they don't look at all sides:

"Media Matters for America -- a progressive, Washington-based, non-profit research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media -- seeks a highly experienced senior strategist to conceive and direct all aspects of the organization's external communications."

I just got done reviewing the web site. I didn't see one liberal mistake in the media. Boy I guess the liberal media don't place any misinformation?
on Mar 25, 2005
For those who are really concerned about inaccurate or misleading news reports, I suggest you check out Media Matters Link . They indict every news outlet that misrepresents or lies about stuff, on all sides of the political spectrum.


Just more of dabe's mindless ranting.
on Mar 25, 2005
comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation


.......being the operative phrase here.
on Mar 25, 2005
I have been trying to substantiate this Talking Points claim, and other than what guy says here, I cannot. It's still being investigated, yet you dipshits just immediately jump on the bandwagon. Fact is, those points were used by neocons, regardless of who wrote them.
on Mar 25, 2005
I keep thinking how badly I'd like to see dabe banned, but then I think of how much work she does proving everything we accuse Liberals of being...


Anyhoo, is this the talking points Kingbee posted a couple of times? I wonder if this will be substantiated as much as the Rather thing, or if it will be eternally they said/we said, you did/did not.

Looking at the facts posted at the spectator, it looks pretty cut and dried considering the glaring inconsistancies in the memo itself.
on Mar 25, 2005
I keep thinking how badly I'd like to see dabe banned, but then I think of how much work she does proving everything we accuse Liberals of being...


Me TOO! Her ignorance is astounding!
on Mar 25, 2005
that was a Caricature of liberals? damn I thought they just had HUGE twisted heads.
on Mar 25, 2005
Dabe has lost her marbles....if she ever had them.

Hope Dabe is wearing her tinfoil hat to block the bad microwave signals us conservatives put out......
on Mar 25, 2005
Why is it so easy to fool these people/
on Mar 25, 2005

.......being the operative phrase here.

Exactly!  Where is the words AND LIBERAL

O, I guess that is not in their vocabulary!

on Mar 25, 2005

I have been trying to substantiate this Talking Points claim, and other than what guy says here, I cannot. It's still being investigated, yet you dipshits just immediately jump on the bandwagon. Fact is, those points were used by neocons, regardless of who wrote them.

Oh, so the NY Times is not substantiated? WOW!

Another coup for the Vast Right wing Conspiracy!  And since they are in the same state as the "Smartest woman in the (imaginary) world" I guess she looses as well!

Thanks Dab!  You just shot Shillaries next campaign down the tubes!  Are you a closet conservative?

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