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While taking them away from the rest of Citizens
Published on March 8, 2005 By Dr Guy In Politics

John Kerry and Hillary Clinton are trying to over turn the constitution, not by eht elegal means of amending it, but the way congress has been doing of late, by legislative fiat.

They want to restore the rights of all felons, regardless of their previous crimes, to be able to vote, even tho that is clearly a violation of the contstitutional clause that gives that right to the states ("the Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections," ).

Their arguements are lame, and indeed bordering on racist.  Their supporters claim that a majority of felons are black, when the actual fact is only about 1/3 are, still a high percentage.

But regardless of whether a minority or majority are one race or another, the US Constitution explicitly gave the right to the states to determine if convicted felons could vote. And before some liberals start yelling Jim Crow or racists, this was granted by the 14th amendments and most of the laws in the southern states were written by the Republican occupiers of the mid 19th century.  Long before Citizens were again allowed to govern themselves.

No, this is just a blantant and underhanded attack on all the citizens of the US by the elite liberal leaders.  Who care nothing for the rights of average citizens, or even of their constitutents, as long as they can maintain and grow their power.

Someone called Hillary a moderate.  A Moderate?  Only in some liberals far left mind.  She is the epitome of Grima Wormtongue, and the 'king' are the ones who allow her to whisper her poison in their ears.  Time to wake up people.  Hillary only cares about 1 person.  Hillary Rodham. Period.  Kerry is just her willing and idiot dupe.


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on Mar 09, 2005
Convicted felons should never have the right to vote. If you can't respect the law, then you shouldn't have a say in the making of the law.


Then give me back my tax money. What I did was 17 years ago, and was the result of some stupid decisions I made (if you have read much about my family background, I actually turned out pretty GOOD, on the whole). There's a HUGE problem with making blanket assertions like this; they don't take individual cases into account. You're calling for a LIFETIME suspension of "rights" due to youthful stupidity.

(I still contend the difference between me and the majority of kids my age is, I was caught, and I didn't have a good lawyer).

Anyway, do the words "taxation without representation" sound familiar? They should; we fought a revolution over it. Ex felons who have served their time should not automatically be relegated to second class citizen status.
on Mar 09, 2005
Anyway, do the words "taxation without representation" sound familiar? They should; we fought a revolution over it. Ex felons who have served their time should not automatically be relegated to second class citizen status.


We've agreed that it should be a case-by-case basis, but the fact is, convicts do lose many inherent rights. Being locked away in a prison isn't exactly respecting someone's freedoms, now is it? Personally, I do believe that some offenses should relegate the convict to second class citizen. Depending of course how severe the crime was to the victims.

I have a police record from my wild and woolly teen years. I never got it expunged, so when I have filled out paperwork for security clearances and EMT background checks I still have to include them.

I do this on purpose, as an example to my kids. They have seen me fill out these forms, and seen that, even at my age, those offenses still effect my life.
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