Remember how long it took for hotels to admit that all your comings and goings into your hotel room were being logged every time you swiped your card?   What happened to the good old days when you were given a key?  Some hotels still don't admit it to this day, and if you ask, they'll ask why you're asking.

I actually prefer this, as it gives the hotel information in case you come back to your room and something is missing, they will know where to start to find out who took it.  Does not matter to me though if they know when I come and go, it is their hotel after all, and this just seems as a very good means of security.

Honestly? I was just kidding about the phone thing. I have a 'bent' sense of humor.

As for 'the guru of geekdom'... lol... thanks, but you'd be amazed (or maybe not, lol) at how little I know.  I.D. is the Techno-Evangelist, not I.

I agree, and could be exculpatory: If something happens elsewhere it could keep you 'off the hook' (partially) for it.

Thanks - yes I verified it was a false alarm.  Sorry for the rhubarb.

But we already know that they are vulnerable and bugs have been released.  It is just a matter of time before they pull  a stunt like that on the phones.  That is what I thought you meant.  Not that this one was infecting the Samsung phones (different OS and all).

Only one problem with that. If you buy a PC it comes with a restore DVD that in most cases one has to make themselves. If you reinstall Windows it reinstall the bloatware. They quit giving out copies of "just" Windows some time ago. So one has to spend hours getting rid of the bloatware. A format would not help much.

No-one seems to be answerable to the issue of false-positives.  It's seemingly OK to SLANDER a company's reputation by getting it wrong because your program is profoundly defective/wanting - hitting the INNOCENT Company's bottom-line as well.

This sort of SHIT happens to many.  It's time something better than "sorry, we fucked up" results.

I'd like to see SERIOUS financial compensation awarded as a deterrent.

"c:\SL" = Starlogger rootkit?  Are these people just plain STUPID or what?  Test your bloody programs before you release them.

Oh....BTW...it's 'LIBEL', really as it's the 'written word'.

Wish we could get Jafo's opinion on this.

It's a worry that a 'security expert' could be confused by a false-positive. Considering that it happens all the time with programs, you think he would research further before throwing it on the net.

One of the reasons I buy the full version of an OS. 

On top of buying a PC that already has a Windows OS on it? Waste of money...

OK...I'll elucidate.....

Can you elaborate on your elaborate opes elucidate  

For reckless and irresponsible reporting I agree.  But for the innocent stuff, no.  And the rub is how do you figure the difference.  Samsung has a recourse against Netsec, and that is the courts.  Proving it is not so easy, but then given the respective pockets of the 2 companies, the odds favor Samsung should they pursue it.

I agree strongly with this view.  While my job is Network security, I do not have the skills or time to investigate every alarm raised, so I trust others to do it for me.  When they screw up big time, like this one, it makes my job harder in knowing who to trust. 

The end result is that Samsung got hurt, but I suspect Netsec got a fatal blow for their early false positive.  Had they been right, they would be kings of the castle.  As it is, their reputation just took a very bad blow.

Netsec looks like an incompetent retard....Samsung is made to look like a 'criminal'.

It's time incompetence was penalized to the point of eradication.