name calling and the mudfest that ensues is just downright ridiculous

The mudfest was for Flaming Jennifer1 not for knocking you. It was flaming ME read the thread properly.

I even thanked the participants for pointing out my faults and I have acted on fixing them such as not posting the funnies I thought you would all laugh at and visiting all the old threads on peoples blogs to get to know them.

But then you are so wrapped up in the fact that I will not like you - you see nothin gelse and you are so intent on egging Lw on you see nothing else.

..see the only time she extends an apology

I extended my apology to all in JU on my sheep thread so eat your words FS.



As for keeping out of it? HA! Lets see what you have said about me:



You have along with LW inferred I am a whore,

You yourself have called me a royal bitch.

You have said that I am deficient - implying a mental problem.

You have said I am mentally unstable okay so now you are a doctor? Depression is not something to make fun of or even be nasty about.

You along with LW have made a snide remark about I should up my medication? Bringing in one medication for an illness they suffer with is really lower than shark shit.



Hmmm for someone sooooo nice you really are doing a good job of being nice..... change baa to moooo.



You have been egging LW on all the way go back on the following threads and examine yourself. JU gossip, Letter, She doesnt like me, Weird people, JU gossip 2. Take a look at your comment enflamming and egging LW on all the time. You are not so innocent, so saying "I have done nothing" this bullshit and you know it and I know it. Examine your comments and see for yourself.



If you bothered to actually read why I told Baker not to reply on my threads any more you would have a better understanding of why I did what I did, however you are so blinded by your outrage against my open and honest opinions even if they are harsh, (again, get to know me I am a harsh person by nature - not a made up persona)



You are also so thickskinned you cannot recognise the fact that LW's remark to the kid Pearl was just plain nasty and was put in her usual bitchy way and was most uncalled for, you are so jaded by her bullshit you cannot even see something as plain as that? Sad.



If you read my Sheep thread you will have noticed I left you behind on it a long time ago, but you have kept feeding the flames, by posting additional threads and egging LW on - this is the truth of the matter. The only thing I have repeatedly said is I will not like you nor will I be be forced to like you.



Go get on with your life Fs and keep pretending you are not involved - I know different. Innocent my ass.



THIS reply here is in response to your reply above, I have not asked you to have ANOTHER GO - you did it on your own. So who is trying to keep her name in the thick of it all? FS.

JU it would be entirely wrong of you to have a go at Doc as is being done on one of LW's threads and if you do then you really should be ashamed of yourselves.

The doc is just trying to bring some balance to all this. He does keep getting dragged in by LW at every turn. LW seems to have some obsessional hatred of the doc and cannot help herself - there is no need to feed her frenzy.

He does have a point - LW is always at the thick of the ugliness on JU. Do not castigate him for stating a fact.

I have stayed out of the fray because it's irritating and it's a distraction that so many of us have been drawn into. I think it's despicable and disgusting the melee that one person has caused

Fanned and egged on by yourself with glee, follow all your comments to lw.

And all for what? For points? Seemingly so

Thats rich from someone who posted to articles with the intent of getting sympathy and flaming me.

Also from someone that feeds a "pointswhores" blatant "give me points article" - LW. JU Gossip 1 and 2.

Here's someone who openly comes out fighting no matter what is said, or who says it. No matter what the discussion the tirade that ensues is ridiculous and it's all aimed at LW, and now me.

Lets get this straight it was never aimed seriously at you - I STATED I DID NOT LIKE YOU - I left you behind a long while back, you have kept posting articles and remarks to keep it going - feeding the flames.

My flame fest was aimed at me - sarcastically - then became focused on LW as she insisted on taking over as she cannot stand not being the center of attention

You flatter yourself too much.

She's not standing up for herself she's being a menace.

So I am supposed to just STFU and take yours and and everyone elses bullshit?

Get real! You are as bad a sLW having one set of rules for yourselves and another for others.

hmm only 9 posts - one after another - here is another one for good measure.

lol... You've given a great example right there. How many posts in a row is that? What you don't understand is LW leaves the keyboard chuckling. When I jab her not to do it, it's like asking a cat not to sharpen its claws on the couch; it doesn't make sense because it isn't serious to her, she doesn't really give a damn what you think.

You, on the other hand, and Lucas, and some of the other deranged folks around here, obviously do give a damn. Thus the example above. My suggestion would be to grow a sense of self and disregard people like LW whose appraisals don't fit your self image.

To answer your title question, no JU is not full of "sheeple". I've noticed I'm not the only "reg" who hasn't been around much, and, while I couldn't blame the running conflict specifically, it HAS made me less than eager to come around. While other people may feel entirely differently about the matter, I don't think I'm TOTALLY alone in this regard.

Jeesh, if it isn't this fight it's another around here.

Has been this way since I have been here, and I manage to stay out of it quite well.

Nothing new, just new players......

I stood up for Lucas because he was being bullied mercilessly and tonight I stood up for Pearl,

Defender of the realm.

If your going to swim with the sharks, you had better have some pretty sharp teeth.

I guess it's beside the point that neither asked for any defence.

Anyway, I've kept out of this crazy disruptive feud up to this point, when you dragged me in, as you tore into Pearls article.

By defending Pearl without her asking, you made the comments on that thread all the more embarressing to her. It's possibly why she never returned to comment or edit her post.

I also have yet to see that Lucas has asked for your "helping" him, in fact from what I have seen, he seems to wish you wouldnt.


I often give this morsel of advice to my friends: You would be best advised to worry about yourself rather than others.

Bravado is very unbecoming and really serves no constructive purpose in the end. Pick your fights wisely, and know when to quit while you're ahead.


As the most junior member of the clan, I've learned quite a bit from this fiasco, from when it first started about a couple of weeks ago. I really can't see that you have made any headway since then, but you insist on trying. Be that as it may, but for all the world, I can't understand why you had to drag me into it. I could live with the blanket "sheep" comment, but when I get labled as horrible, arrogant, and egotistical on top of it, well that gives me the right to speak up.

I'm even willing to let all that go, for in all reality it's very petty. Please stop shooting yourself in the foot. You seem to be at the root of all the discord, whether you are the cause of the problem or otherwise. You have said more than your peace, and all are aware of how you feel. If you feel you have been slighted by LW, then be the bigger person and let it go, whether or not little jabs come here and there. IMHO, you are simply out-classed by LW, and you're never going to make any headway with her. Continuing on with all this is little more than entertainment for some of us at your expense, and simply damages your credibility in the eyes of those you are trying to convince.

I haven't jumped on the bandwagon here, and I hope you'll see that I'm just trying to impart some friendly advice. I sure hope you see it that way, but I guess only time will tell.

"If your going to swim with the sharks, you had better have some pretty sharp teeth."

That's my perspective, too. People jump on me as though I were hypocritical for "jumping" on LW for doing this sort of thing and then taking up for her. You won't find me saying that LW's junk is 'unfair' or 'mean', and it damn well won't be because my feelings are hurt. I just get tired of seeing it, and most of the time she's the only rational one in the feud that will hear reason, (see above).

The other blog, though, didn't have anything to do with this feud, and j1 just waded into LW as if it were the same old argument blog for no reason at all. So this "i've moved on" stuff is just a farce. She's still sensitive enough that if she see's LW smart off she has to make a thing about it.

One of these days you guys will be around enough, and maybe feel confident in yourselves enough, to realize that this isn't about you at all. LW enjoys this. You aren't scoring points by kicking back, you're offering incentive by showing your sensitivity. Eventually, maybe, you'll realize that this shit doesn't work if only one person plays.

and you're never going to make any headway with her

Ding Ding Ding! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've tried telling her that, and she doesn't seem to understand that.

I also have yet to see that Lucas has asked for your "helping" him, in fact from what I have seen, he seems to wish you wouldnt.

Funny thing, I never did, never plan on it. Not that I don't like being helped once in a while. Ironically, when I returned the favor with some advice - cause i thought it would be a nice thing to do - I got my head bit off. Go figure.

it HAS made me less than eager to come around.

I second that one.

You, on the other hand, and Lucas, and some of the other deranged folks around here, obviously do give a damn. Thus the example above. My suggestion would be to grow a sense of self and disregard people like LW whose appraisals don't fit your self image.

I'm not deranged, just bloody stubborn as hell. Though, I've given up on LW. Like everyone says, and what I now realize - what's the point?

I stood up for Lucas because he was being bullied mercilessly and tonight I stood up for Pearl,

Defender of the realm.

If your going to swim with the sharks, you had better have some pretty sharp teeth.

I guess it's beside the point that neither asked for any defence.

Anyway, I've kept out of this crazy disruptive feud up to this point, when you dragged me, in as you tore into Pearls article.

By defending Pearl without her asking, you made the comments on that thread all the more embarressing to her. It's possibly why she never returned to comment or edit her post.

I also have yet to see that Lucas has asked for your "helping" him, in fact from what I have seen, he seems to wish you wouldnt.


I often give this morsel of advice to my friends: You would be best advised to worry about yourself rather than others.

Bravado is very unbecoming and really serves no constructive purpose in the end. Pick your fights wisely, and know when to quit while you're ahead.


As the most junior member of the clan, I've learned quite a bit from this fiasco, from when it first started about a couple of weeks ago. I really can't see that you have made any headway since then, but you insist on trying. Be that as it may, but for all the world, I can't understand why you had to drag me into it. I could live with the blanket "sheep" comment, but when I get labled as horrible, arrogant, and egotistical on top of it, well that gives me the right to speak up.

I'm even willing to let all that go, for in all reality it's very petty. Please stop shooting yourself in the foot. You seem to be at the root of all the discord, whether you are the cause of the problem or otherwise. You have said more than your peace, and all are aware of how you feel. If you feel you have been slighted by LW, then be the bigger person and let it go, whether or not little jabs come here and there. IMHO, you are simply out-classed by LW, and you're never going to make any headway with her. Continuing on with all this is little more than entertainment for some of us at your expence, and simply damages your credibility in the eyes of those you are trying to convince.

I haven't jumped on the bandwagon here, and I hope you'll see that I'm just trying to impart some friendly advice. I sure hope you see it that way, but I guess only time will tell.