Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

This one right here in the old Dominion.  It seems a campaign staffer for a democrat wannabee representative has now done what many democrats are finding fanciful today.  She called Sen George Allen a Macacawitz.  The first part in reference to his faux pas (so there is no way she or anyone in politics does not know it is a slur), and the second in reference to his Jewish Roots (Jews seem to be a favorite target of the "caring" liberals this election season).

She was fired, but as the democrats have told us, she really meant it and she knows what it means.  Would they lie?

It is funny in a way.  Now that the liberal MSM no longer has a monopoly on the news, these 'little' things are getting better air time.  Something the MSM would have deep sixed in the past, they cannot as Blogdom and alternate media expose the hypocrites the democrats really are.

I wonder how many more racial slurs are going to be aired this election season.  And how long those the democrats pretend to care about will abide their KKK roots resurfacing.


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on Oct 07, 2006
So, let's get this straight. A staffer uses a made up word, which Republicans came up with and which had been used dozens of times before online, including by the certainly Non-Democrat John "Foley is Dems Fault" Podhoretz at The National Review (damned Liberal MSM!) back in mid-September.

The Democratic staffer is fired, and it is a sign of some hidden racism in the Democratic mind.

But when Republicans made up and used the word, they were....what again?
on Oct 07, 2006
But when Republicans made up and used the word


allen didn't 'make up' the word. it's a tunisian insult he learned from someone--prolly family members who lived in north africa.

regrettable tho it may be, nothing that staffer did comes close to allen--while governor of virginia--eagerly crawling into bed with the council of conservative citizens (the most recent incarnation of the nototious white citizens' council) which has been designed as a hate group by the anti-defamation league.
on Oct 07, 2006
By, "the word", I was referring to "Macacawitz". Which I thought was the "word" under discussion, and which my provided links clearly relate to.

But I hear ya.
on Oct 07, 2006
By, "the word", I was referring to "Macacawitz". Which I thought was the "word" under discussion, and which my provided links clearly relate to.

But I hear ya.


It is the word in question. But you are incorrect. Republicans did "not" make up this word.


During a speech, Allen paused, then began referring to Sidarth:

This fellow here over here with the yellow shirt, Macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere. And it's just great. We're going to places all over Virginia, and he's having it on film and it's great to have you here and you show it to your opponent because he's never been there and probably will never come. [...] Let's give a welcome to Macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia.[13]

According to Sidarth, he was the only person of color present among the crowd of 100 or so Republican supporters, some of whom applauded Allen's remarks.[14]

The Webb campaign accused Allen of using a racial insult; macaca has been identified as a Francophone epithet for North African indigenes, and commentators have suggested that he may have heard the slur from his mother who is French Tunisian.[15] The word has different meanings in other languages, for example, the word macaca/macaco means fool, clown, simpleton in Italian.[16]


And the use of Macaca"witz" points to someone of a "Jewish" backround.
on Oct 07, 2006
OK. I can see you are continuing to edit your post.

But I fail to see, still, how the information you provided in any way supports your assertion that it was not republicans or conservatives who came up with "Macacawitz".

Can you provide a link or reference to the word being used by a non-conservative earlier than the link I provided to its use at The National Review on September 19? Can you provide a link discussing the possible origin of the 'word' "macacawitz" with more credibility than the link I provided to The New Republic?



on Oct 07, 2006
We are all aware of the intended meaning of the word, if we weren't, it has been ham handedly pointed out several times above already


Actually, NOT all of us do. And for the record... not one of your links prove or "even" show, that republicans made up this word.

macaca = mad
witz = twits
mad twits?

sorry I like the phrase maccacawitz ! catchy! without the insult attached as she said it! (caca shitz)

oh god this can go all over the place!


macaca - Monkey. calling a minority a monkey is considered (according the to Washington Post, the source of this story) a racial slur.
Witz - hymie. A derogatory term for a person of Jewish Ancestry.
on Oct 07, 2006
We are all aware of the intended meaning of the word, if we weren't, it has been ham handedly pointed out several times above already


Actually, NOT all of us do. And for the record... not one of your links prove that republicans made up this word. It is a word used to describe Senator Allen "supposedly" by others to describe him "after" his fau paux. And for the record...you have no proof that is was made by republicans. Your first link says "according to a spy". That is not proof. That's hearsay!

macaca = mad
witz = twits
mad twits?

sorry I like the phrase maccacawitz ! catchy! without the insult attached as she said it! (caca shitz)

oh god this can go all over the place!


macaca - Monkey. calling a minority a monkey is considered (according the to Washington Post, the source of this story) a racial slur.
Witz - hymie. A derogatory term for a person of Jewish Ancestry.
on Oct 07, 2006
Well, we are typing at the same time, but maybe we can still communicate.

I am beginning to understand that links alone are not enough, that quotes must be made.

On September 25, Spencer Ackerman at The New Republic reported:
According to spy at a GOP hill-staffer bash on Friday, there's a new nickname for George Allen circulating in Republican circles: "Senator Macacawitz."


Which seems plausible, because six days earlier, on September 19, 2006, at The National Review John Podhoretz used the 'comical' pen-name "Felix Macacawitz".

That is the earliest use of the word "macacawitz" I have found. It is not hard to believe that Mr. Podhoretz came up with it himself. But even if he didn't, with no evidence to the contrary whatsoever, I can safely say that a Republicans or conservative came up with the word.

And that is beside the point. Whether they originated the word or not, conservatives used it much earlier than this issue with the Democratic staffer, and no one here has even come close to getting as angry at this prominent columnist as they are at the campaign underling.
on Oct 08, 2006
On September 25, Spencer Ackerman at The New Republic reported:
According to spy at a GOP hill-staffer bash on Friday, there's a new nickname for George Allen circulating in Republican circles: "Senator Macacawitz."


Which seems plausible, because six days earlier, on September 19, 2006, at The National Review John Podhoretz used the 'comical' pen-name "Felix Macacawitz".


If I were you...I wouldn't count on either of these being of republican OR conservative origin.
on Oct 08, 2006
Well, I'm not going to do more research for you--not on this matter anyway. If you don't know what side of the fence The National Review and John Podhoretz come down on, then you apparently don't want to know.

What gets me is the fact that you're the only person still interested in this. I applaud your conviction, if I tend to find you a bit obtuse and uninformed. But all the other jackals picking at this story seem to have moved on to the next bit of road kill.

Where are the sarcastic remarks about lack of media coverage now? Where are the accusations that the use of such a word signifies an underlying racism in the mindset and general political stance of the person who used it now? Where'd you all go? Getting fired was too good for the Democratic foot soldier, but we can let Republicans say "macacawitz" without comment at all? Where are the backhanded "KKK" comments--which conveniently ignores that racists and fascists have supported Republicans, the party of David Duke, since the Civil Rights era--where are y'all now?

I sincerly hope that this silence is a sign that some of the previous responders and the originator of this thread are distracted by some serious introspection. Yeah right.
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