Can you Racial Profile your own Race?

Published on August 1, 2006 By Dr Guy In Politics

Apparently the ACLU (The clueless union) thinks so! They have decided that the mayor of Jackson Mississippi, trying to reduce the crime in his city, has been racial profiling Blacks. The sticky whicket is that he is Black! And he is decrying the Black on Black Crime! So of course the perpertrators are going to be black!

But the ACLU has decided that you cannot stop black on black crime as that is racial profiling! (that is why we search 70 year old norwegian grand mothers too)! It is the epitomy of Orwellian speech! Soon, police are not going to be able to give out the color of a suspected murderer, because.......it will be racial profiling! "he was a 25 year old male, color indeterminet"!

What a load of BS! Have they gone so far now as to accuse people of self racism? Apparently so. And the next step is eliminate all reference to color and features as that might lead to profiling as well.

The ACLU has truly lost its purpose. It no longer is for any civil liberties. It is against all liberties except for criminals!

Mayor Frank Melton may be a democrat. But he is not a stupid one. He is trying to make his city Safe for ALL citizens, not just black ones. But the Clueless Union is bound and determined to make sure the only ones that have rights, are the criminals.

Comments (Page 4)

LYNN27

on Aug 18, 2006

I didn't make that up. For the ones who think that race is not a social construct, then you must live on another planet, because it's been said for years now. There is no genetic difference. (Oh, wow, what a surprise! I am shocked!) By the way, I’m confused by what you said. A superiority complex doesn't mean that people have any basis for it; they just believe whatever because their grandpas told them that they were superior and they went along thinking it. (I can do great things! I can be an astronaut, go to space and be as far away from the ‘problem’ as possible. It will be amazing when the day comes when people go to space to avoid giving up the status quo.) But I know several things:

1. Race is a social construct and I at least know so. No one can tell me that I’m inferior because my genetic make-up will prove otherwise.

2. Life originated in Africa.

3. Doesn’t it feel good to be like me?

4. The same ones who tell you to stop feeling sorry for yourself are the same ones who think that racial profiling is good. If there’s racial profiling, then are blacks still not dealing with racism? I love it how some people think that they shouldn’t talk about it anymore. I have Professors and people who I’ve met who openly talk about slavery, race in America, etc. because they are not guilty or bitter!!! Blacks did not ask to be here and now that they are, they are at home. (Did I disappoint anyone?) 400 years of slavery and 40 years to catch up?

5. People are destructive and when there’s only one powerful nation left; they’ll hurt anything that breathes. I give up. The world is too screwed up to fix, but I’m only 24, when will my nightmare end? I no longer want to be around the hate, the ignorance, and the sadness.

Good Point

on Aug 18, 2006

it's only true btw for members of western societies who were white, sufficiently arrogant to consider themselves superior to everyone whose skin was darker than their own, completely devoid of empathy and deliberately disconnected from humanity and reality.

So says the man who views self-preservation as "arrogance." Racism, while not an admirable sentiment, was never capable of destroying Western man, and Western society. And yes, there is a strong overlap between Western and white. There's nothing wrong with that. If you are white and ashamed of being white, feel free to sacrifice yourself and your children on the altar of self-hatred and racial masochism. Don't offer me. You self-hating liberal whites have a habit of forcing other whites to pay the price for your guilt. I just have to laugh out loud, though, when I hear a liberal like yourself speak of embracing "reality." Of course reality in a liberal's mind means a malleable, subjective "reality." Additionally, whites are the only people who have EVER exhibited any sense of racial empathy. There is no analogous sentiment that enjoys any popular support among any other race of people. If you have any doubts, visit Japan: people who are just as affluent as those in the West, guilty of racist atrocities themselves, yet utterly lacking in any sense of racial masochism or self-hate. Why should they hate themselves? It accomplishes nothing but their own destruction. But they at least have the foresight to appreciate that.

I know you didn't make it up. I heard the same nonsense in 1974. I guess you subscribe to the belief that if you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth.

1. Race is a social construct and I at least know so. No one can tell me that I’m inferior because my genetic make-up will prove otherwise.

The importance people place on one's race may be a social construct, but what someone's DNA, manifested in his race, is is a natural, biological fact. My DNA is my DNA, and how it manifests itself physically is an objective fact.

It sort of reminds me of part of George Carlin's standup when he poked fun at the phrase "happens to be," as in "happens to be black." Like someone is black by accident. He goes, "Did he have two black parents?" Yes Yes. "Did they fuck?" Oh, they sure did! "Then what's the fucking mystery? I think it would be more surprising if he 'just happened to be Scandinavian.'"

No one can tell me that I’m inferior because my genetic make-up will prove otherwise.

Inferiority and superiority are non-sequiturs. Which breed of tiger is superior, Siberian or Bengal? It's a meaningless question, because it may not have an answer, and it has no bearing on the fact that there are discernible differences between to two subspecies codified in their DNA and passed down to each successive generation.

2. Life originated in Africa.

I think you mean hominid species originated in Africa, because as far as I know, life on earth originated in the oceans. But again, that even modern man originated in Africa means nothing. Some homo sapiens remained in Africa, while the rest spreas to other lands like Europe, Asia, Australia, Polynesia, Melanesia, and the Americas. Genetic isolations of populations led to very physically distinct subspecies forming.

4. The same ones who tell you to stop feeling sorry for yourself are the same ones who think that racial profiling is good. If there’s racial profiling, then are blacks still not dealing with racism? I love it how some people think that they shouldn’t talk about it anymore. I have Professors and people who I’ve met who openly talk about slavery, race in America, etc. because they are not guilty or bitter!!! Blacks did not ask to be here and now that they are, they are at home. (Did I disappoint anyone?) 400 years of slavery and 40 years to catch up?

I agree that blacks did not ask to come to America. Blacks have had a pretty raw deal in America for the last 400 or so years. And if any black person in America still feels he is so deprived and would have had a better deal in Africa, we whites should pay reparations. But only if that black person lives out the rest of his life in Africa and never sets foot in a white country again. I think that's fair. $30,000 a year. It will go a long way in a place like Cameroon, Senegal, or Liberia.

The world is too screwed up to fix, but I’m only 24, when will my nightmare end? I no longer want to be around the hate, the ignorance, and the sadness.

What ever made you believe that the world was meant to be fixed? Sometimes what makes the world better for one person, or one group, or one religion, etc., makes it worse, sometimes a whole lot worse, for another. Learn to accept the thing that cannot change, and work to change that which will be for the benefit of someone or something you care about. Even if it's not in my interest, should you automatically, out of hand, reject something that would benefit you or someone you love? I hope not.

Dr Guy

on Aug 18, 2006

Remove the White insert "or lighter" and you can be describing Louis Farakhan. The simple fact is that it is not limited to pale skins, it is a human issue that does transcend race.

jennifer1

on Aug 18, 2006

The ACLU really needs to do what their accronym suggests, get A CLUE!

ROFL !

jennifer1

on Aug 18, 2006

quote --- Apparently the ACLU (The clueless union) thinks so! They have decided that the mayor of Jackson Mississippi, trying to reduce the crime in his city, has been racial profiling Blacks. The sticky whicket is that he is Black! And he is decrying the Black on Black Crime! So of course the perpertrators are going to be black!

But the ACLU has decided that you cannot stop black on black crime as that is racial profiling! (that is why we search 70 year old norwegian grand mothers too)! It is the epitomy of Orwellian speech! Soon, police are not going to be able to give out the color of a suspected murderer, because.......it will be racial profiling! "he was a 25 year old male, color indeterminet"! end quote.

As Mr T (The A Team) would say "Damn Fools"

How ludicrous is that? Someone needs a kicking out of their job for being so blatantly thick.

Dr Guy

on Aug 18, 2006

As Mr T (The A Team) would say "Damn Fools"

I think he said "I pity the fools!". But I dont, as they are winning on this side of the pond. Damn shame. And in the end, our loss too.

kingbee

on Aug 18, 2006

So says the man who views self-preservation as "arrogance."

dammit. i KNEW i was leaving something out. chronic craven paranoia, for instance, of sufficient intensity to delude members of the majority group into truly believing they've gone from victimizers to victims. good luck with that btw.

Racism, while not an admirable sentiment, was never capable of destroying Western man, and Western society. And yes, there is a strong overlap between Western and white.

i dunno why you're using past tense. it's a slow-acting, insidious poison still doing a lotta damage. what you're misperceiving as two unique and unrelated abberations is actually phase 2 or 4 or ? the wider it spreads, the more it's diluted. i guess it's a good thing (for you) you chose to be born white and in the 20th century. had you been born black in the 19th century--or in america before 1980 or south africa before 1990--i doubt you woulda lasted very long.

kingbee

on Aug 18, 2006

in response to:

This has had a more destructive effect on Western societies than racism ever had.

drguy seems to concur thusly:

It is on the left, but hopefully people will realize that rending their clothes and hating themselves does not do any good, or make them feel better.

either he was so eager to take yet another of his fetching lil me-too girly swats at those 'on the left' he never even noticed a claim that institutional state-sanctioned dehumanization is a benign, if not preferred, condition OR that whole wwdgd thing is so much self-glorifying horseshit.

Dr Guy

on Aug 19, 2006

Actually read and understood. But then you seem to take every thing personally. That is your problem, not mine.

Best for you to read and understand that the written word does not have body english to tell you the tone the author is stating. And leave the written word as it is stated unless an emoticon goes along with it.

I am sorry that you think when I say "left" or "liberal" that I include everyone left of center. I could qualify every statement with disclaimers, but frankly, I have done that enough in the past that had you read me then, or if you have, forgotten it, I find it a bore.

If you are always looking for qualifiers, fine. Go read the fine print on a car Contract. I frankly am tired of them.

Rightwinger

on Aug 24, 2006

There is no genetic difference.

---Lynn27

I'm sick of this "there is no genetic difference between the races--we're all the same" BS. Scientists have breathlessly reproted many things in the past, only to later have them disproven by other reasearch. Genetics is still a fairly new science, overall, so that's makes it slightly less than reliable. No genetic difference between the races?
Then why, for example, is Sickle-cell Anemia a disease mainly contracted by blacks? It seems to pretty much leave everyone else alone. Why are blacks more prone to stiff, curly hair and broad, flatter features than other races? Genetics?

I agree that blacks did not ask to come to America.

---Good Point

True....they were often captured in Africa by black slave traders who sold them in chains to white slave traders; but I don't think Lynn27 wants to hear that.

Blacks have had a pretty raw deal in America for the last 400 or so years.

---Good Point

Their "deal" has improved considerably from oh, about 1964 on. Not that any of them younger than, say, 50 or 55, can appreciate that fact.

---Lynn27

I'm sorry, but blacks DO see to be more prone to criminal activity---especially violence---than whites or other races. Stereotyping, you say? Well, stereotyping usually has a basis in fact somewhere; there had to be repeated observation of the fact, or else people wouldn't have reason to think stereotypically.
When I see an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs on the news, they're usually used somehow in inconjunction with a black--sorry--African-American---body. Deny it all you want, but it's the truth.
Oh yes, I'm sure every one of those orange jumpsuits is covering a completely innocent man or woman, right? Innocent as a newborn babe and simply being harrassed by Whitey. Right.
Tell me that you, yourself, don't feel even a twinge of suspicion when you see a carload of young black men pass you on a dark street. That you don't instinctively wonder what they're up to?
They may just be making a Colt .45 Malt Liquor, Hennesey or Courvosier run (that's stereotyping based on actual observation, by the way. I use to work n a liquor store, and more blacks bought those particular brands than anyone else. Even the ad posters we put up had black models on them). Then again, who knows? They could be heading for a drive-by or drug deal. Or both.

People are destructive and when there’s only one powerful nation left; they’ll hurt anything that breathes. I give up. The world is too screwed up to fix, but I’m only 24, when will my nightmare end? I no longer want to be around the hate, the ignorance, and the sadness.

---Lynn27

What a hopeless and cynical person you are.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would get monstrous erections around you. They'd smell your open willingness to ingest their poison a mile away. Ten miles.

"When will my nightmare end?" Please.

"I no longer want to be around the hate, the ignorance, and the sadness."
You sound suicidal. Get over yourself.

Last week at work, a new girl was paired for training with a more experienced woman, named Mary. Mary is black. The new girl was white.
The new girl resisted taking direction from Mary because she hates black people. She told Mary this, plainly and in no uncertain terms.
The two had words, Mary cried, and the white girl left at lunch, pissed, and never to return.
Mary was saddened and very upset, but returned to work after a short break and a few words of encouragement from our (white) plant manager and fellow employees, both white and black. Mary doesn't feel badly for herself because she's black. She, not surprisingly, knowing Mary, felt badly for the white girl. She prayed for that white girl, Lynn.
How often have you, Lynn27, encountered such blatant, bold-faced racism as that? Flat-out hatred? How often does any black person meet racism or hatred like that in today's world? They don't.
But to make their agenda work, they have to pretend they do; and so, they put on very thin skins and become very easily offended by any percieved slight. Anything at all will do.
When they stop doing that, Lynn, when you stop seeing hate and racism everywhere, even where it isn't, your nightmare will end. Good luck.

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