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Published on May 20, 2006 By Dr Guy In Blogging

You are naive if you are worried about the government!  They got more problems than your corns!  The simple truth is that your life is already an open book!  And the ID thieves have got you dead to rights.  The only reason you have not been hijacked is that you are not interesting enoigh yet.

Worry about the fricking government?  After I am dead maybe!  The sad fact that so many area 51 nuts fail to realize is that there is TOO much information for anyone to give a diddly damn about unless they have a reason to care. 

Do you?  Does the government have a reason to care about you?  Dont be so egotistical.  The real fact is that they will never see, care about or use the info.

Who will?  ID theives and Terrorists.  And you know what?  The government cannot protect you!  Shock!  Horror!  Outrage!

Gag me with a spoon.

If the government was actively spying on me and collecting all the voodoo stufff that is alleged (and totally bogus), Maybe I would be concerned.  But all that is happening is massive amounts of random data is being fed into a database that no one will see except when Ahmed decides to fly a plane into the Sears tower.  Maybe the information will be in time.  Between you me and the fence post, I doubt it.  TMI

Yes, people TMI!

It is nice to think we are so important that WE are the ones being watched.  Sure!  WE are so important.

Keep on keeping on with your delusions.  Sorry, my black helicopter already left for area 51. Call me when you arrive.


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on May 24, 2006
Hehe, good article there.

I think some people are just scared of the Big Brother that takes away their freedom. They should have lived in China or Tibet during Mao's time to see what it really feels like to be paranoid what the government finds out about you...
on May 31, 2006

If prosperity is nubile wenches, then I want to die a very rich man

You have a joie de vivre!

on May 31, 2006

They should have lived in China or Tibet during Mao's time to see what it really feels like to be paranoid what the government finds out about you...

My Hope is they never have to, or worry about the government getting big enough to worry about it.  As long as we keep a tight rein on the size of the government, that wont happen.  It does require eternal vigilance, but moderated with some realism thrown in as well.

on May 31, 2006
History certainly shows that governments have always used data mining and wire tapping appropriately.

It is necessary for the government to have data on ALL of us. Lest one of us slips through.

I'm pondering some potential "good" uses here:

Tracking down terrorists and those who support them. - Hey, who could argue this?
Tracking down criminals and child molesters - Again, who could argue?
Tracking down anyone associated with anything that you don't like. - Abortionists and their clients
- Homosexuals
- People of opposing political parties
- Yankees fans
- People named "Steve" - They've been trying to take over- Get with it!
- Commies - Some of us have long memories >
- People with Aids
- The guy who cut you off in traffic yesterday
- and so on.

Then, the fun part! You can destroy their insignificant lives if you so choose!

Really, there is nothing at all to worry about. These people have and, always will be the clear enemy. Well, them and some others. Of course then there are also those who may piss us off in the future. This list will need to remain flexible.
Do you not want intelligence on your enemy?

Again, for you? Nothing to worry about. (You aren't a gay abortionist.......are you?)( or that jerk in the beamer on I 94?) Good! You're fine.

As far as the recent incident resulting in millions of files of US veterans being stolen from a government employees residence? Please, it was probably just some robbers that don't even know what they got! Really! Look, why else would we wait 2 weeks to disclose what happened? There was and is nothing to worry about.

If it were terrorists looking for ways to hit us, it probably would have already happened. And even if Usama has your information, don't be so arrogant as to think he really cares about you or your family. What would a terrorist or another foreign enemy do with such information? That's right folks! Nothing. They probably don't know a harddrive from a turban. No worries chap!

If it helps you feel any better.....this was not the only house broken into in the neighborhood. Although they didn't seem to take anything, they DID break in. These must be real idiots. They broke into 2 houses, and all they managed to get was a computer and associated media! How smart can these boobs be?

I agree with Dr. Guy. Get real people!
on Jun 01, 2006

( or that jerk in the beamer on I 94?)

Your sarcasm is duly noted and appreciated.  But as I have said, the danger is allowing the government to get big enough to make use of the data that is readily available for mining.  The collection is secondary since the data already exists and can be mined by unscrupulous people now.  We cannot control the collection of the data, only its usage or mis-usage as the case may be.

And for the record, it is I-95 around here, and I have a mercedes, not a beamer.

on Jun 01, 2006
Well, my Pinto and I didn't appreciate it!
on Jun 01, 2006
Dr.,

Honestly, I'm among those who is inclined to give Bush and the NSA the benefit of being innocent until proven guilty. But you are assuming that only the federal government would use such information.

What are we going to do when county judges start using their connections to get access to this information to harass political opponents, or families falsely accused of abuse/neglect, etc? If it were just the federal government we had to worry about, you're right. Most of us are far too insignificant for the government to worry about. But it could go farther...MUCH farther.

It's not an "area 51" thing, dr. It's something that, sadly, happens in too many areas. We don't need to give corrupt local and county government officials MORE tools to harass people they don't like.
on Jun 01, 2006

Well, my Pinto and I didn't appreciate it!

You got a Pinto that still runs?  WOW!

on Jun 01, 2006

It's not an "area 51" thing, dr. It's something that, sadly, happens in too many areas. We don't need to give corrupt local and county government officials MORE tools to harass people they don't like.

I agree with you totally.  Yet normally the local and county governments do not have the capacity to do any data mining.  That is why BIG government scares me more.  And yes, I have already been harassed by the local government over the education of one of my children.  That is why we home schooled him and put him in private school.  However they did not use data mining, just old fashion tailing.

on Jun 01, 2006
See, and my concern actually revolves around the following scenario (or rough equivalents): County judge is told to "get dirt on someone", calls homeland security and tells them they've had a few calls on suspicious behaviour, could they check it out? Homeland security jumps, checks data mined material, local law enforcement officials are looking over their shoulders, taking mental notes. Eventually, Homeland security says "nothing to worry about", but county judge walks away with a list of leads without having to tail you in a big black car to get them.

There are a lot of other potential scenarios, but you get the picture. As long as the activity is conducted in total secrecy, we'll never know, will we?
on Jun 01, 2006
Wasn't one of the heads of Homeland Security recently arrested for child molestation?

Data in his hands is dangerous. To say the least.

on Jun 01, 2006

There are a lot of other potential scenarios, but you get the picture. As long as the activity is conducted in total secrecy, we'll never know, will we?

No, but then being totally open is not the answer either as some things have to be done in total secrecy.  IN your scenario, there is nothing that can be done, for a judge can issue a warrant, thus negating any illegal or potentially illegal activities.

on Jun 01, 2006

Wasn't one of the heads of Homeland Security recently arrested for child molestation?

Data in his hands is dangerous. To say the least.

Yes.  But then there is no way to completely erradicate abuse of data.  The Criminals will find ways to get it regardless of the laws.

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