Debate, and discuss, just dont Bore me.

By now, anyone with children under the age of 10 probably knows that there is a new animated movie out, Curious George.  And pretty much everyone knows the story of the monkey, Curious George and his benefactor(?), the man with the Yellow hat (actually, he is dressed in all yellow).  It is a cute story and one that I never felt was bad to share with my children.  Apparently I was wrong, at least according to animal rights activist Robin Roth.

"The books are really irresponsible to me. It's sickening, really,"

Why?

Start with the Caucasian, gun-carrying Man with the Yellow Hat venturing to Africa (imperialism alert!) to harvest wildlife for a zoo (animal repression alert!). Continue with George being unsupervised and allowed to smoke a pipe and huff ether (bad parenting alert!),

To their credit, the reviewer for the San Francisco Chronicle, no right wing rag, is very contemptuous of this person's claims.  Indeed, sometimes a children's story is just that.  A children's story.  We would not expect to see elephants wearing clothes just because Babar and family do, than we would expect to see a monkey given free reign within someone's house. 

But children love animals, so many children's books have a high animal content just for that reason.  This does not mean the writers are advocating treating animals like humans, or children themselves, just that the story usually has a point for a child that they can understand.  And indeed, with Curious George it is the trouble that he gets into and then is rescued by the man with the Yellow Hat.

No animals were injured, either physically or psychologically in the production of these books or movie, nor is it likely to start a stampede to pet stores for children looking at acquiring a monkey (Did Bambi produce a run for Deer?  Rabbits?  Skunks?).

It seems that animal rights activists, at least this one in particular, have lost the ability to laugh and play.  And to understand the innocence of a child's mind.  And that says more about them than it does any children's book.


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on Feb 13, 2006
Oh, there is one thing where Robin really screwed up.  The Chimpanzee has the closest DNA and they are not Monkeys!  I am surprised that an Animal Rights activist is so ignorant on that point.
on Feb 13, 2006
Actually I think that most twits like the ones mentioned think Bambi is a propaganda film for their cause. I don't think they have really lost the ability to think like a child. I think they want to make us all children, living in a perpetual disneyland where no one is ever hurt, all our food grows on trees, and the lions play with the warthogs.

It's the ultimate in irrational messiah complexes, to me. They actually believe that they can change the whole system wherein we evolved. Carnivorism is evil to them. It's no different than radical religious types that chant "this world is not our home" and call everything we do sin.
on Feb 13, 2006
Dr Seuss got most of his early material I hear from WWII and NAzism.
on Feb 13, 2006
Eh, huh? Got a link about Dr Seuss?
on Feb 13, 2006
Good thoughts, Guy.

In response to BakerStreet—I'm a vegetarian for various reasons, and one of them is animal rights...in the sense that I think it's cruel and unusual to treat any feeling thing the way animals are treated in the big, corporate meat factories. That is not to suggest I believe carnivorism is "evil." We obviously have canines for a reason, and I have less of a problem with hunters than I do with people who won't eat meat on the bone. But conciously choosing to avoid something you find ethically wrong, no matter how natural it may feel to engage in, does not make you a kook.
on Feb 13, 2006
Eh, huh? Got a link about Dr Seuss?


Don't have a link, heard it somewhere on a documentary program somewhere/sometime.
on Feb 13, 2006
No offense intended, of course. It's just when I hear someone say that a meat packing plant is ethically wrong when lions eat their meat while it is still kicking, it reminds me of some Christians that believe sex is a sin if it is for anything but procreation. "Wrong" is becoming more and more based on artificial, esoteric values that have little or nothing to do with the world we come from.

If there were an alternative, it would make more sense, but there's really no difference to me as far as what is humane between a meat packing plant and a hunter. Dead is dead, and according to the animal rights/anti-capital punishment folks, there's no possible way to kill something that isn't inhumane.

Sorry if made you feel like I was calling you a kook, but honestly, don't we kind of judge the sanity of people by how unable they are to deal/comprehend reality? From your post I don't think you are irrational. People who call curious george 'wrong', though, have totally lost touch with reality.
on Feb 13, 2006
People who call curious george 'wrong', though, have totally lost touch with reality.


They have also lost touch with what it is like to be a kid. Do they not remember what pretending is? Kids make believe all sorts of stuff that they know isn't reality. That is a good thing in my book. When I was a kid and read Curious George books I didn't run to my parents asking to go to the jungle and get my own chimp. People don't give kids enough credit. Let them be kids!
on Feb 14, 2006
They have also lost touch with what it is like to be a kid.


I agree with this more than anything else. Most activists have their hearts in the right place. They have faith their cause is a just one but they have moved so far down a path it is hard for them to see any other view point. I can't stand they look for political or religious messages in stories such as 'Curious George'. It is sad, unfortunate and should be completely ignored.
on Feb 14, 2006

Actually I think that most twits like the ones mentioned think Bambi is a propaganda film for their cause. I

That gets you an insightful!  I had not thought of that angle!  Very good.

on Feb 14, 2006

Dr Seuss got most of his early material I hear from WWII and NAzism.

Really?  Is Horton Goerring?

on Feb 14, 2006

Eh, huh? Got a link about Dr Seuss?

I think he is yanking our chain.

on Feb 14, 2006

I'm a vegetarian for various reasons, and one of them is animal rights...in the sense that I think it's cruel and unusual to treat any feeling thing the way animals are treated in the big, corporate meat factories.

I can respect that.  As long as you do not mock our children by painting them as evil for eating a hamburger.  IN time, honey will get you more converts than the peta piss.

on Feb 14, 2006

Don't have a link, heard it somewhere on a documentary program somewhere/sometime.

Bombs away!

on Feb 14, 2006

No offense intended, of course. It's just when I hear someone say that a meat packing plant is ethically wrong when lions eat their meat while it is still kicking,

Actually cats, crush the windpipe of their pray, so they are really humane.  Dogs eat their meat when they are still kicking.

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